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From: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	HORIGUCHI NAOYA <naoya.horiguchi@nec.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] mm: cma: introduce cma_release_nowait()
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 16:49:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1e712f3-c2f2-dcad-85c0-dc152bb8eecb@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YF0agS53iGkFo41Y@carbon.DHCP.thefacebook.com>

On 3/25/21 4:19 PM, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 01:12:51PM -0700, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 06:15:11PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 25.03.21 17:56, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>>>> On 3/25/21 3:22 AM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>>> On Thu 25-03-21 10:56:38, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>> On 25.03.21 01:28, Mike Kravetz wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cma_release() has to lock the cma_lock mutex to clear the cma bitmap.
>>>>>>> It makes it a blocking function, which complicates its usage from
>>>>>>> non-blocking contexts. For instance, hugetlbfs code is temporarily
>>>>>>> dropping the hugetlb_lock spinlock to call cma_release().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch introduces a non-blocking cma_release_nowait(), which
>>>>>>> postpones the cma bitmap clearance. It's done later from a work
>>>>>>> context. The first page in the cma allocation is used to store
>>>>>>> the work struct. Because CMA allocations and de-allocations are
>>>>>>> usually not that frequent, a single global workqueue is used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To make sure that subsequent cma_alloc() call will pass, cma_alloc()
>>>>>>> flushes the cma_release_wq workqueue. To avoid a performance
>>>>>>> regression in the case when only cma_release() is used, gate it
>>>>>>> by a per-cma area flag, which is set by the first call
>>>>>>> of cma_release_nowait().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
>>>>>>> [mike.kravetz@oracle.com: rebased to v5.12-rc3-mmotm-2021-03-17-22-24]
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Is there a real reason this is a mutex and not a spin lock? It seems to
>>>>>> only protect the bitmap. Are bitmaps that huge that we spend a significant
>>>>>> amount of time in there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good question. Looking at the code it doesn't seem that there is any
>>>>> blockable operation or any heavy lifting done under the lock.
>>>>> 7ee793a62fa8 ("cma: Remove potential deadlock situation") has introduced
>>>>> the lock and there was a simple bitmat protection back then. I suspect
>>>>> the patch just followed the cma_mutex lead and used the same type of the
>>>>> lock. cma_mutex used to protect alloc_contig_range which is sleepable.
>>>>>
>>>>> This all suggests that there is no real reason to use a sleepable lock
>>>>> at all and we do not need all this heavy lifting.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When Roman first proposed these patches, I brought up the same issue:
>>>>
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20201022023352.GC300658@carbon.dhcp.thefacebook.com/
>>>>
>>>> Previously, Roman proposed replacing the mutex with a spinlock but
>>>> Joonsoo was opposed.
>>>>
>>>> Adding Joonsoo on Cc:
>>>>
>>>
>>> There has to be a good reason not to. And if there is a good reason,
>>> lockless clearing might be one feasible alternative.
>>
>> I also don't think nowait variant is good idea. If the scanning of
>> bitmap is *really* significant, it might be signal that we need to
>> introduce different technique or data structure not bitmap rather
>> than a new API variant.
> 
> I'd also prefer to just replace the mutex with a spinlock rather than fiddling
> with a delayed release.
> 

I hope Joonsoo or someone else brings up specific concerns.  I do not
know enough about all CMA use cases.  Certainly, in this specific use
case converting to a spinlock would not be an issue.  Do note that we
would want to convert to an irq safe spinlock and disable irqs if that
makes any difference in the discussion.
-- 
Mike Kravetz


  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-25 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-25  0:28 [PATCH 0/8] make hugetlb put_page safe for all calling contexts Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: cma: introduce cma_release_nowait() Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  9:39   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25  9:45   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25  9:54     ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 10:10       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 10:11     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 10:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 10:17       ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-25 10:24         ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25  9:56   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 10:22     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 16:56       ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 17:15         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-25 20:12           ` Minchan Kim
2021-03-25 23:19             ` Roman Gushchin
2021-03-25 23:49               ` Mike Kravetz [this message]
2021-03-26 21:32                 ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-29  7:46                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-29 22:27                     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 2/8] mm: hugetlb: don't drop hugetlb_lock around cma_release() call Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 3/8] hugetlb: add per-hstate mutex to synchronize user adjustments Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 10:47   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 12:29   ` Oscar Salvador
2021-03-26  1:52   ` Miaohe Lin
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 4/8] hugetlb: create remove_hugetlb_page() to separate functionality Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 10:49   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26  2:10   ` Miaohe Lin
2021-03-26 19:57     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-27  1:40       ` Miaohe Lin
2021-03-27  6:36   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 5/8] hugetlb: call update_and_free_page without hugetlb_lock Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 10:55   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 17:12     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 19:39       ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 20:33         ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-27  6:54   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-28 21:40     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 6/8] hugetlb: change free_pool_huge_page to remove_pool_huge_page Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 11:06   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 17:29     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 7/8] hugetlb: make free_huge_page irq safe Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 11:21   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-25 17:32     ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-27  7:06   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-29  7:49     ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-29 22:44       ` Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25  0:28 ` [PATCH 8/8] hugetlb: add lockdep_assert_held() calls for hugetlb_lock Mike Kravetz
2021-03-25 11:22   ` Michal Hocko
2021-03-26  2:12   ` Miaohe Lin
2021-03-27  8:14   ` [External] " Muchun Song
2021-03-26  1:42 ` [PATCH 0/8] make hugetlb put_page safe for all calling contexts Miaohe Lin
2021-03-26 20:00   ` Mike Kravetz

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