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From: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 14/21] mm/compaction: do page isolation first in compaction
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:22:27 +0800
Message-ID: <d9818e06-95f1-9f21-05c0-98f29ea96d89@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0UdK-fy+yYGLFK=YgE+maa_0_uecq0_8S_0kM8BiVgRO7g@mail.gmail.com>



在 2020/8/10 下午10:41, Alexander Duyck 写道:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:10 AM Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 在 2020/8/7 下午10:51, Alexander Duyck 写道:
>>> I wonder if this entire section shouldn't be restructured. This is the
>>> only spot I can see where we are resetting the LRU flag instead of
>>> pulling the page from the LRU list with the lock held. Looking over
>>> the code it seems like something like that should be possible. I am
>>> not sure the LRU lock is really protecting us in either the
>>> PageCompound check nor the skip bits. It seems like holding a
>>> reference on the page should prevent it from switching between
>>> compound or not, and the skip bits are per pageblock with the LRU bits
>>> being per node/memcg which I would think implies that we could have
>>> multiple LRU locks that could apply to a single skip bit.
>>
>> Hi Alexander,
>>
>> I don't find problem yet on compound or skip bit usage. Would you clarify the
>> issue do you concerned?
>>
>> Thanks!
> 
> The point I was getting at is that the LRU lock is being used to
> protect these and with your changes I don't think that makes sense
> anymore.
> 
> The skip bits are per-pageblock bits. With your change the LRU lock is
> now per memcg first and then per node. As such I do not believe it
> really provides any sort of exclusive access to the skip bits. I still
> have to look into this more, but it seems like you need a lock per
> either section or zone that can be used to protect those bits and deal
> with this sooner rather than waiting until you have found an LRU page.
> The one part that is confusing though is that the definition of the
> skip bits seems to call out that they are a hint since they are not
> protected by a lock, but that is exactly what has been happening here.
> 

The skip bits are safe here, since even it race with other skip action,
It will still skip out. The skip action is try not to compaction too much,
not a exclusive action needs avoid race.


> The point I was getting at with the PageCompound check is that instead
> of needing the LRU lock you should be able to look at PageCompound as
> soon as you call get_page_unless_zero() and preempt the need to set
> the LRU bit again. Instead of trying to rely on the LRU lock to
> guarantee that the page hasn't been merged you could just rely on the
> fact that you are holding a reference to it so it isn't going to
> switch between being compound or order 0 since it cannot be freed. It
> spoils the idea I originally had of combining the logic for
> get_page_unless_zero and TestClearPageLRU into a single function, but
> the advantage is you aren't clearing the LRU flag unless you are
> actually going to pull the page from the LRU list.

Sorry, I still can not follow you here. Compound code part is unchanged
and follow the original logical. So would you like to pose a new code to
see if its works?

Thanks
Alex

> 
> My main worry is that this is the one spot where we appear to be
> clearing the LRU bit without ever actually pulling the page off of the
> LRU list, and I am thinking we would be better served by addressing
> the skip and PageCompound checks earlier rather than adding code to
> set the bit again if either of those cases are encountered. This way
> we don't pseudo-pin pages in the LRU if they are compound or supposed
> to be skipped.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Alex
> 


  reply index

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-25 12:59 [PATCH v17 00/21] per memcg lru lock Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 01/21] mm/vmscan: remove unnecessary lruvec adding Alex Shi
2020-08-06  3:47   ` Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 02/21] mm/page_idle: no unlikely double check for idle page counting Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 03/21] mm/compaction: correct the comments of compact_defer_shift Alex Shi
2020-07-27 17:29   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-28 11:59     ` Alex Shi
2020-07-28 14:17       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 04/21] mm/compaction: rename compact_deferred as compact_should_defer Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 05/21] mm/thp: move lru_add_page_tail func to huge_memory.c Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 06/21] mm/thp: clean up lru_add_page_tail Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 07/21] mm/thp: remove code path which never got into Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 08/21] mm/thp: narrow lru locking Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 09/21] mm/memcg: add debug checking in lock_page_memcg Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 10/21] mm/swap: fold vm event PGROTATED into pagevec_move_tail_fn Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 11/21] mm/lru: move lru_lock holding in func lru_note_cost_page Alex Shi
2020-08-05 21:18   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 12/21] mm/lru: move lock into lru_note_cost Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 13/21] mm/lru: introduce TestClearPageLRU Alex Shi
2020-07-29  3:53   ` Alex Shi
2020-08-05 22:43     ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-06  1:54       ` Alex Shi
2020-08-06 14:41         ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 14/21] mm/compaction: do page isolation first in compaction Alex Shi
2020-08-04 21:35   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-06 18:38   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-07  3:24     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-07 14:51       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-10 13:10         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-10 14:41           ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-11  8:22             ` Alex Shi [this message]
2020-08-11 14:47               ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-12 11:43                 ` Alex Shi
2020-08-12 12:16                   ` Alex Shi
2020-08-12 16:51                   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-13  1:46                     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13  2:17                       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-13  3:52                         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13  4:02                       ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] " Alexander Duyck
2020-08-13  4:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: Drop locked from isolate_migratepages_block Alexander Duyck
2020-08-13  6:56                           ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13 14:32                             ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-14  7:25                               ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13  7:44                           ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13 14:26                             ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-13  4:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: Drop use of test_and_set_skip in favor of just setting skip Alexander Duyck
2020-08-14  7:19                           ` Alex Shi
2020-08-14 14:24                             ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-14 21:15                               ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-15  9:49                                 ` Alex Shi
2020-08-17 15:38                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-18  6:50                           ` Alex Shi
2020-08-13  4:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: Identify compound pages sooner in isolate_migratepages_block Alexander Duyck
2020-08-14  7:20                           ` Alex Shi
2020-08-17 22:58   ` [PATCH v17 14/21] mm/compaction: do page isolation first in compaction Alexander Duyck
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 15/21] mm/thp: add tail pages into lru anyway in split_huge_page() Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 16/21] mm/swap: serialize memcg changes in pagevec_lru_move_fn Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 17/21] mm/lru: replace pgdat lru_lock with lruvec lock Alex Shi
2020-07-27 23:34   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-28  7:15     ` Alex Shi
2020-07-28 11:19     ` Alex Shi
2020-07-28 14:54       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-29  1:00         ` Alex Shi
2020-07-29  1:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-29  2:27             ` Alex Shi
2020-07-28 15:39     ` Alex Shi
2020-07-28 15:55       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-29  0:48         ` Alex Shi
2020-07-29  3:54   ` Alex Shi
2020-08-06  7:41   ` Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 18/21] mm/lru: introduce the relock_page_lruvec function Alex Shi
2020-07-29 17:52   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-30  6:08     ` Alex Shi
2020-07-31 14:20       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-31 21:14   ` [PATCH RFC] mm: Add function for testing if the current lruvec lock is valid alexander.h.duyck
2020-07-31 23:54     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-02 18:20       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-04  6:13         ` Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 19/21] mm/vmscan: use relock for move_pages_to_lru Alex Shi
2020-08-03 22:49   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-04  6:23     ` Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 20/21] mm/pgdat: remove pgdat lru_lock Alex Shi
2020-08-03 22:42   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-03 22:45     ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-04  6:22       ` Alex Shi
2020-07-25 12:59 ` [PATCH v17 21/21] mm/lru: revise the comments of lru_lock Alex Shi
2020-08-03 22:37   ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-04 10:04     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-04 14:29       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-06  1:39         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-06 16:27           ` Alexander Duyck
2020-07-27  5:40 ` [PATCH v17 00/21] per memcg lru lock Alex Shi
2020-07-29 14:49   ` Alex Shi
2020-07-29 18:06     ` Hugh Dickins
2020-07-30  2:16       ` Alex Shi
2020-08-03 15:07         ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-04  6:14           ` Alex Shi
2020-07-31 21:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-04  8:36 ` Alex Shi
2020-08-04  8:36 ` Alex Shi
2020-08-04  8:37 ` Alex Shi
2020-08-04  8:37 ` Alex Shi

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