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From: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, arnd@arndb.de, cl@linux.com
Cc: keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net, longman@redhat.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, willy@infradead.org,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: expland documentation over __read_mostly
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 17:20:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2aa9491-c1e3-4ae1-1ab2-589a6642a24a@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180507231506.4891-1-mcgrof@kernel.org>

On 05/07/2018 04:15 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> __read_mostly can easily be misused by folks, its not meant for
> just read-only data. There are performance reasons for using it, but
> we also don't provide any guidance about its use. Provide a bit more
> guidance over it use.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org>
> ---
>  include/linux/cache.h | 10 ++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> Every now and then we get a patch suggesting to use __read_mostly for
> something new or old but with no justifications. Add a bit more
> verbiage to help guide its users.
> 
> Is this sufficient documentation to at least ask for a reason in the commit
> log as to why its being used for new entries? Or should we be explicit and
> ask for such justifications in commit logs? Taken from prior discussions
> with Christoph Lameter [0] over its use.
> 
> [0] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/alpine.DEB.2.11.1504301343190.28879@gentwo.org
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/cache.h b/include/linux/cache.h
> index 750621e41d1c..62bc5adc0ed5 100644
> --- a/include/linux/cache.h
> +++ b/include/linux/cache.h
> @@ -15,8 +15,14 @@
>  
>  /*
>   * __read_mostly is used to keep rarely changing variables out of frequently
> - * updated cachelines. If an architecture doesn't support it, ignore the
> - * hint.
> + * updated cachelines. Its use should be reserved for data that is used
> + * frequently in hot paths. Performance traces can help decide when to use
> + * this. You want __read_mostly data to be tightly packed, so that in the
> + * best case multiple frequently read variables for a hot path will be next
> + * to each other in order to reduce the number of cachelines needed to
> + * execute a critial path. We should be mindful and selective if its use.

                                                                 of its use.

> + *
> + * If an architecture doesn't support it, ignore the hint.
>   */
>  #ifndef __read_mostly
>  #define __read_mostly
> 

-- 
~Randy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-08  0:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-07 23:15 [PATCH] mm: expland documentation over __read_mostly Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-08  0:20 ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2018-05-08  3:23 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-08  8:28 ` David Howells
2018-05-08 11:23   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-08 15:39     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-08 18:17       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-08 12:54 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-05-06 23:13 Luis Chamberlain
2020-05-06 23:36 ` Rafael Aquini
2020-05-06 23:44 ` Matthew Wilcox

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