From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Cc: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com
Subject: Re: RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 10:47:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e47bf89c-cee7-3006-5c1b-c76f640c3e23@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o80eh65f.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal>
On 5/3/22 10:14, Alistair Popple wrote:
> I would certainly be interested in figuring out how HW could provide some sort
> of heatmap to identify which pages are hot and which processing unit is using
> them. Currently for these systems users have to manually assign memory policy to
> get any reasonable performance, both to disable NUMA balancing and make sure
> memory is allocated on the right node.
Autonuma-induced page faults are a total non-starter for lots of
workloads, even ignoring GPUs. Basically anyone who is latency
sensitive stays far, far away from autonuma.
As for improving on page faults for data collection...
*Can* hardware provide this information? Definitely.
Have hardware vendors been motivated enough to add hardware to do this?
Nope, not yet.
Do you know anyone that works for any hardware companies? ;)
Seriously, though. Folks at Intel _are_ thinking about this problem.
I'm hoping we have hardware some day to help lend a hand. The more
hardware vendors that do this, the more likely it is that we'll have
good kernel code to consume data from the hardware.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-03 17:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-30 2:10 RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces Wei Xu
2022-04-30 3:59 ` Yang Shi
2022-04-30 6:37 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-06 0:01 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-10 4:32 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-10 5:37 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-10 11:38 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-11 5:30 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-11 7:34 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-11 7:49 ` ying.huang
2022-05-11 17:07 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-12 1:42 ` ying.huang
2022-05-12 2:39 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-12 3:13 ` ying.huang
2022-05-12 3:37 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-12 6:24 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-06 18:56 ` Yang Shi
2022-05-09 14:32 ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-10 3:24 ` Yang Shi
2022-05-10 9:59 ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-10 12:10 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-11 5:42 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-11 7:12 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-11 9:05 ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-12 3:02 ` ying.huang
2022-05-12 4:40 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-12 4:49 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-10 4:22 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-10 10:01 ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-10 11:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-01 18:35 ` Dan Williams
2022-05-03 6:36 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-06 19:05 ` Yang Shi
2022-05-07 7:56 ` ying.huang
2022-05-01 17:58 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-05-02 1:04 ` David Rientjes
2022-05-02 7:23 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-03 2:07 ` Baolin Wang
2022-05-03 6:06 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-03 17:14 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-03 17:47 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2022-05-03 22:35 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-03 23:54 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-04 1:31 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-04 17:02 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-05 6:35 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-05 14:24 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-10 4:43 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-02 6:25 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-03 7:02 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-02 15:20 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-03 7:19 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-03 19:12 ` Tim Chen
2022-05-05 7:02 ` Wei Xu
2022-05-05 8:57 ` ying.huang
2022-05-05 23:57 ` Alistair Popple
2022-05-06 0:25 ` Alistair Popple
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