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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/39] Documentation/x86: Add CET description
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 00:02:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd17dd3b-5cf6-4676-b17a-5004545df3a4@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220929222936.14584-2-rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>

On 29/09/2022 23:28, Rick Edgecombe wrote:
> diff --git a/Documentation/x86/cet.rst b/Documentation/x86/cet.rst
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..4a0dfb6830f9
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/x86/cet.rst
> @@ -0,0 +1,140 @@
> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> +
> +=========================================
> +Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET)
> +=========================================
> +
> +Overview
> +========
> +
> +Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) is term referring to several
> +related x86 processor features that provides protection against control
> +flow hijacking attacks. The HW feature itself can be set up to protect
> +both applications and the kernel. Only user-mode protection is implemented
> +in the 64-bit kernel.
> +
> +CET introduces Shadow Stack and Indirect Branch Tracking. Shadow stack is
> +a secondary stack allocated from memory and cannot be directly modified by
> +applications. When executing a CALL instruction, the processor pushes the
> +return address to both the normal stack and the shadow stack. Upon
> +function return, the processor pops the shadow stack copy and compares it
> +to the normal stack copy. If the two differ, the processor raises a
> +control-protection fault. Indirect branch tracking verifies indirect
> +CALL/JMP targets are intended as marked by the compiler with 'ENDBR'
> +opcodes. Not all CPU's have both Shadow Stack and Indirect Branch Tracking
> +and only Shadow Stack is currently supported in the kernel.

This paragraph is stale, isn't it?

AIUI, by the end of this series, what is supported is in-kernel
self-protection using CET-IBT, and userspace shadow stacks.

It is probably worth keeping the implementation-agnostic bits separate
from the "what is currently supported" matrix.  I'm not certain if its
worth splitting into cet.rst, cet-kernel.rst and cet-user.rst at this
point, but it's something to consider.

> +The Kconfig options is X86_SHADOW_STACK, and it can be disabled with
> +the kernel parameter clearcpuid, like this: "clearcpuid=shstk".

What about namespacing?  For the CPUID features themselves, yes they're
shstk and ibt.

But for the Kconfig options, the user and kernel implementations are
wildly different for both shstk and ibt.  Are they going to want to
share the same Kconfig option from the getgo?

Independent of the Kconfig symbol, user and kernel have separate
enablement criteria.  e.g. kernel shstk is likely going to be dependent
on the FRED feature, and simply looking at `shstk` in /proc/cpuinfo
doesn't necessarily tell you all you want to know.

> +
> +To build a CET-enabled kernel, Binutils v2.31 and GCC v8.1 or LLVM v10.0.1

What are the other dependences here?

In principle shstk only needs assembler support for the new
instructions, and that's Binutils 2.29 / LLVM 6 from my notes.

It's IBT which needs compiler support (and then, even only kernel IBT),
and that work is already done.

> +or later are required. To build a CET-enabled application, GLIBC v2.28 or
> +later is also required.
> +
> +At run time, /proc/cpuinfo shows CET features if the processor supports
> +CET.

Probably helpful to state what these are.

> +
> +Application Enabling
> +====================
> +
> +An application's CET capability is marked in its ELF header and can be

Technically its in an ELF note, not the ELF header.

~Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-05  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 240+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29 22:28 [PATCH v2 00/39] Shadowstacks for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 01/39] Documentation/x86: Add CET description Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30  3:41   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-30 13:33     ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-09-30 13:41       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-03 16:56         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  2:16           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-05  9:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05  9:25             ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-05  9:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-03 19:35     ` John Hubbard
2022-10-03 19:39       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  2:13       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-03 17:18   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 19:46     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  0:02   ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2022-10-10 12:19   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 16:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-10 16:51       ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-12 12:29       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 15:59         ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-12 16:54           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-13 21:28         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-13 22:15           ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-26 21:59           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:28 ` [PATCH v2 02/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add Kconfig option for Shadow Stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 13:40   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 19:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 17:25   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 19:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 19:42   ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-03 19:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-12 20:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-13  0:31     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-13  9:21       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 03/39] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPU feature flags for shadow stacks Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:26   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-14 16:20   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-14 19:35     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 04/39] x86/cpufeatures: Enable CET CR4 bit for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05  0:55   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-14 17:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-14 18:15     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14 19:44       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 05/39] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET MSR and XSAVES supervisor states Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-15  9:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2022-10-17 18:57     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-17 19:33       ` Borislav Petkov
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 06/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for modifying xstate Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:48   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  4:05       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 14:18       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04 16:13         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 07/39] x86/cet: Add user control-protection fault handler Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 14:01   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 18:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:04   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:33     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 22:51   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-03 23:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-03 23:11     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  1:20   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 22:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  9:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05 22:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 08/39] x86/mm: Remove _PAGE_DIRTY from kernel RO pages Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 14:17   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-05  1:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 11:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-05 12:34       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 09/39] x86/mm: Move pmd_write(), pud_write() up in the file Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:06   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 10/39] x86/mm: Introduce _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30 15:16   ` Jann Horn
2022-10-06 16:10     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 16:26   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 21:36     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 21:54       ` Jann Horn
2022-10-03 22:14       ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-05  2:17   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 14:08     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-05 23:06       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 23:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 11:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14  9:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:52     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 18:06     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 11/39] x86/mm: Update pte_modify for _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 12/39] x86/mm: Update ptep_set_wrprotect() and pmdp_set_wrprotect() for transition from _PAGE_DIRTY to _PAGE_COW Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:43   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-03 18:11   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 18:51     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-03 22:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 23:17       ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:20         ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:25           ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-03 23:38             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  0:40               ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 13/39] mm: Move VM_UFFD_MINOR_BIT from 37 to 38 Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:11   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 18:24   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 14/39] mm: Introduce VM_SHADOW_STACK for shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 17:47   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04  0:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:17   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 15/39] x86/mm: Check Shadow Stack page fault errors Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:20   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-14 10:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 16/39] x86/mm: Update maybe_mkwrite() for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:22   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:53   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-14 15:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:45     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 17/39] mm: Fixup places that call pte_mkwrite() directly Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:24   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:56   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04 16:15     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  1:56   ` Nadav Amit
2022-10-04 16:21     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-14 15:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-14 15:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 18/39] mm: Add guard pages around a shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:30   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05  2:30     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 12:33       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 13:32         ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-10 13:40           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 13:56             ` Andrew Cooper
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 19/39] mm/mmap: Add shadow stack pages to memory accounting Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 18:31   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  0:03   ` Kirill A . Shutemov
2022-10-04  0:32     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 20/39] mm/mprotect: Exclude shadow stack from preserve_write Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 21/39] mm: Re-introduce vm_flags to do_mmap() Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 22/39] mm: Don't allow write GUPs to shadow stack memory Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-30 19:16   ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-30 20:30     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-30 20:37       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-30 23:00     ` Jann Horn
2022-09-30 23:02       ` Jann Horn
2022-09-30 23:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 18:39   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:21       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 23/39] x86: Introduce userspace API for CET enabling Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:01   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-06 18:50       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-10 10:56   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 16:28     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-12 12:18       ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 17:30         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 24/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add user-mode shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:43   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 20:04     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  4:04       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 16:25         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 10:17       ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:32         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-05 13:32           ` David Laight
2022-10-20 21:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-20 22:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 25/39] x86/cet/shstk: Handle thread shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 10:36   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-03 16:57     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 20:29   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:09     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 26/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce routines modifying shstk Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 20:44   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:13     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05  2:43   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-05 22:47     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-05 22:58       ` Andrew Cooper
2022-10-20 21:51         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 27/39] x86/cet/shstk: Handle signals for shadow stack Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 20:52   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 22:08     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-20 22:57       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 28/39] x86/cet/shstk: Introduce map_shadow_stack syscall Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:23   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 22:56     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 23:16       ` H.J. Lu
2022-10-10 11:13   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-10 14:19     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 29/39] x86/cet/shstk: Support wrss for userspace Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:28   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 23:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:37       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-06  0:38         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-06  3:11           ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  8:30     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 30/39] x86: Expose thread features status in /proc/$PID/arch_status Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:37   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 22:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04  4:18       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 31/39] x86/cet/shstk: Wire in CET interface Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 22:41   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 32/39] selftests/x86: Add shadow stack test Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:56   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [PATCH v2 33/39] x86/cpufeatures: Limit shadow stack to Intel CPUs Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:57   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  0:09     ` Dave Hansen
2022-10-04  4:54       ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04 15:47         ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-10-04 19:43           ` John Allen
2022-10-04 20:34             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 20:50               ` Nathan Chancellor
2022-10-04 21:17                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2022-10-04 23:24                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-11-03 17:39                     ` John Allen
2022-10-20 21:22                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  8:36       ` Mike Rapoport
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/CLEANUP v2 34/39] x86: Separate out x86_regset for 32 and 64 bit Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/CLEANUP v2 35/39] x86: Improve formatting of user_regset arrays Rick Edgecombe
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 36/39] x86/fpu: Add helper for initing features Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 19:07   ` Chang S. Bae
2022-10-04 23:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 37/39] x86/cet: Add PTRACE interface for CET Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:59   ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  8:44     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-10-04 19:24       ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 38/39] x86/cet/shstk: Add ARCH_CET_UNLOCK Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-04  0:00   ` Kees Cook
2022-09-29 22:29 ` [OPTIONAL/RFC v2 39/39] x86: Add alt shadow stack support Rick Edgecombe
2022-10-03 23:21   ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04 16:12     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04 17:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2022-10-04 18:04         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-03 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 00/39] Shadowstacks for userspace Kees Cook
2022-10-03 17:25   ` Jann Horn
2022-10-04  5:01     ` Kees Cook
2022-10-04  9:57       ` David Laight
2022-10-04 19:28         ` Kees Cook
2022-10-03 18:33   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2022-10-04  3:59     ` Kees Cook

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