From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Eugeniu Rosca <erosca@de.adit-jv.com>
Cc: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Mathieu Malaterre <malat@debian.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Eugeniu Rosca <roscaeugeniu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: mmc: Add 'fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs{200,400}'
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 18:39:07 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191107003907.GA22634@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191105083213.GA24603@vmlxhi-102.adit-jv.com>
On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 09:32:13AM +0100, Eugeniu Rosca wrote:
> Hi Wolfram,
>
> On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 07:22:23AM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> > Hi Eugeniu,
> >
> > thanks for this work!
>
> Thanks for the prompt response. Very much appreciated.
>
> >
> > > A certain eMMC manufacturer provided below requirement:
> > > ---snip---
> > > Use "drive strength" value of 4 or 1 for HS400 or 0 for HS200.
> > > ---snip---
> >
> > I see.
> >
> > > The existing "fixed-emmc-driver-type" property [1] is the closest one
> > > to implement the above, but it falls short due to being unable to define
> > > two values to differentiate between HS200 and HS400 (both modes may be
> > > supported by the same non-removable MMC device).
> > >
> > > To allow users to set a preferred HS200/HS400 "drive strength", provide
> > > two more bindings inspired from [1]:
> > > - fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs200
> > > - fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs400
> >
> > Main question before looking at the code: Can't we just extend the
> > existing binding with an optional second parameter?
I was thinking the same thing...
>
> That's a great question/proposal, but before pushing the v2 right away,
> I would like to first share some thoughts.
>
> > minItems: 1
> > maxItems: 2
> >
> > I tend to favour this approach...
>
> The first question which pops up in my mind is related to the meaning
> of each item. The option which I envision based on your proposal is:
>
> * minItems: 1
> * maxItems: 2
> * Item[0]: Presumably equivalent to the current
> "fixed-emmc-driver-type", i.e. the strength value applied in both
> HS200 and HS400 modes.
> * Item[1] (optional): Presumably equivalent to
> "fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs400" proposed in this series. If this
> element is provided, the first one should likely change its role
> and become an equivalent of "fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs200" from
> this series.
> + Pro: Full backward compatibility. No need to touch the existing
> users of "fixed-emmc-driver-type".
> - Con: Not sure we have such DT bindings which dynamically change
> their semantics based on the usage pattern.
> - Con: Can't easily achieve the same flexibility as accomplished in
> this series. For example, current implementation allows users to
> define each of the three parameters (i.e. HSx00-agnostic drive
> strength, HS200 and HS400 specific drive strengths) individually,
> as well as in all possible combinations. This might be needed if,
> in certain HSx00 mode, users still need to rely on the
> RAW/unmodified drive strength. I am unsure if/how this can be
> achieved with an array OF property with a constant or variable
> number of elements (I try to sketch one solution below).
>
> One option to achieve a similar degree of flexibility by using an array
> OF property (instead of several u32 properties) would be to agree on a
> convention based on magic values, i.e. below DT one-liner could be an
> example of providing solely the "fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs200" value
> (based on the agreement that 0xFF values are discarded by the driver):
>
> fixed-emmc-driver-type = <0xFF 0x1 0xFF>;
I don't understand why you have 3 values instead of 2.
I would just use -1 if you want to ignore an entry. If that's the common
case, then I'd stick with what you originally proposed. If rare, then I
think an array is the better route.
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-07 0:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-05 5:50 [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: mmc: Add 'fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs{200,400}' Eugeniu Rosca
2019-11-05 5:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] mmc: host: Compress 'fixed-emmc-driver-type' handling Eugeniu Rosca
2019-11-05 5:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] mmc: core: Add 'fixed-emmc-driver-type-hs{200,400}' Eugeniu Rosca
2019-11-05 6:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: mmc: " Wolfram Sang
2019-11-05 8:32 ` Eugeniu Rosca
2019-11-07 0:39 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2019-11-12 21:19 ` Wolfram Sang
2019-11-12 23:11 ` Linus Walleij
2019-11-14 10:46 ` Ulf Hansson
2019-11-06 11:07 ` Linus Walleij
2019-11-11 22:25 ` Eugeniu Rosca
2019-11-12 23:08 ` Linus Walleij
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