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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
To: "Jérôme Pouiller" <jerome.pouiller@silabs.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>,
	"Ulf Hansson" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 05/24] wfx: add main.c/main.h
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:58:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf1wnxgu.fsf@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6117440.dvjIZRh6BQ@pc-42> (=?utf-8?B?IkrDqXLDtG1l?= Pouiller"'s message of "Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:22:14 +0200")

Jérôme Pouiller <jerome.pouiller@silabs.com> writes:

> On Thursday 7 October 2021 12:49:47 CEST Kalle Valo wrote:
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>> 
>> Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org> writes:
>> 
>> > Jérôme Pouiller <jerome.pouiller@silabs.com> writes:
>> >
>> >>> >> >> I'm not really fond of having this kind of ASCII based parser in the
>> >>> >> >> kernel. Do you have an example compressed file somewhere?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > An example of uncompressed configuration file can be found here[1]. Once
>> >>> >> > compressed with [2], you get:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >     {a:{a:4,b:1},b:{a:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:A},b:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:B},c:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:C},d:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:D},e:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:E},f:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:F},g:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:G},h:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:H},i:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:I},j:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:J},k:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:0,e:K},l:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:1,e:L},m:{a:4,b:0,c:0,d:1,e:M}},c:{a:{a:4},b:{a:6},c:{a:6,c:0},d:{a:6},e:{a:6},f:{a:6}},e:{b:0,c:1},h:{e:0,a:50,b:0,d:0,c:[{a:1,b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]},{a:2,b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]},{a:[3,9],b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]},{a:A,b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]},{a:B,b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]},{a:[C,D],b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]},{a:E,b:[0,0,0,0,0,0]}]},j:{a:0,b:0}}
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> So what's the grand idea with this braces format? I'm not getting it.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >   - It allows to describe a tree structure
>> >>> >   - It is ascii (easy to dump, easy to copy-paste)
>> >>> >   - It is small (as I explain below, size matters)
>> >>> >   - Since it is similar to JSON, the structure is obvious to many people
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Anyway, I am not the author of that and I have to deal with it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm a supported for JSON like formats, flexibility and all that. But
>> >>> they belong to user space, not kernel.
>> >>>
>> >>> >> Usually the drivers just consider this kind of firmware configuration
>> >>> >> data as a binary blob and dump it to the firmware, without knowing what
>> >>> >> the data contains. Can't you do the same?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [I didn't had received this mail :( ]
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The idea was also to send it as a binary blob. However, the firmware use
>> >>> > a limited buffer (1500 bytes) to parse it. In most of case the PDS exceeds
>> >>> > this size. So, we have to split the PDS before to send it.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Unfortunately, we can't split it anywhere. The PDS is a tree structure and
>> >>> > the firmware expects to receive a well formatted tree.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > So, the easiest way to send it to the firmware is to split the tree
>> >>> > between each root nodes and send each subtree separately (see also the
>> >>> > comment above wfx_send_pds()).
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Anyway, someone has to cook this configuration before to send it to the
>> >>> > firmware. This could be done by a script outside of the kernel. Then we
>> >>> > could change the input format to simplify a bit the processing in the
>> >>> > kernel.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think a binary file with TLV format would be much better, but I'm sure
>> >>> there also other good choises.
>> >>>
>> >>> > However, the driver has already some users and I worry that changing
>> >>> > the input format would lead to a mess.
>> >>>
>> >>> You can implement a script which converts the old format to the new
>> >>> format. And you can use different naming scheme in the new format so
>> >>> that we don't accidentally load the old format. And even better if you
>> >>> add a some kind of signature in the new format and give a proper error
>> >>> from the driver if it doesn't match.
>> >>
>> >> Ok. I am going to change the input format. I think the new function is
>> >> going to look like:
>> >>
>> >> int wfx_send_pds(struct wfx_dev *wdev, u8 *buf, size_t buf_len)
>> >> {
>> >>      int ret;
>> >>      int start = 0;
>> >>
>> >>      if (buf[start] != '{') {
>> >>              dev_err(wdev->dev, "valid PDS start with '{'. Did you forget to compress it?\n");
>> >>              return -EINVAL;
>> >>      }
>> >>      while (start < buf_len) {
>> >>              len = strnlen(buf + start, buf_len - start);
>> >>              if (len > WFX_PDS_MAX_SIZE) {
>> >>                      dev_err(wdev->dev, "PDS chunk is too big (legacy format?)\n");
>> >>                      return -EINVAL;
>> >>              }
>> >>              dev_dbg(wdev->dev, "send PDS '%s'\n", buf + start);
>> >>              ret = wfx_hif_configuration(wdev, buf + start, len);
>> >>              /* FIXME: Add error handling here */
>> >>              start += len;
>> >>      }
>> >>      return 0;
>> >
>> > Did you read at all what I wrote above? Please ditch the ASCII format
>> > completely.
>> 
>> Sorry, I read this too hastily. I just saw "buf[start] != '{'" and
>> assumed this is the same ASCII format, but not sure anymore. Can you
>> explain what changes you made now?
>
> The script I am going to write will compute where the PDS have to be split
> (this work is currently done by the driver). The script will add a
> separating character (let's say '\0') between each chunk.
>
> The driver will just have to find the separating character, send the
> chunk and repeat.

I would forget ASCII altogether and implement a proper binary format
like TLV. For example, ath10k uses TLV with board-2.bin files (grep for
enum ath10k_bd_ie_type).

Also I recommend changing the file "signature" ('{') to something else
so that the driver detects incorrect formats. And maybe even use suffix
.pds2 or something like that to make it more obvious and avoid
confusion?

-- 
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-10  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-20 16:11 [PATCH v7 00/24] wfx: get out from the staging area Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 01/24] mmc: sdio: add SDIO IDs for Silabs WF200 chip Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 02/24] dt-bindings: introduce silabs,wfx.yaml Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-23 17:09   ` Rob Herring
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 03/24] wfx: add Makefile/Kconfig Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01  9:04   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01  9:06   ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 04/24] wfx: add wfx.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 05/24] wfx: add main.c/main.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01  9:22   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01  9:44     ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-01 12:18       ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-06  7:32         ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-07  8:35           ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07 10:00             ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-07 10:41               ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07 10:49                 ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07 11:22                   ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-11-10  9:58                     ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2021-11-10 11:10                       ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-01 15:29     ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-05  5:56       ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-05  8:12         ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 06/24] wfx: add bus.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 07/24] wfx: add bus_spi.c Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 08/24] wfx: add bus_sdio.c Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-30 10:07   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-09-30 16:51     ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-09-30 17:06       ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-01 15:23         ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-05  8:14           ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-06 15:02             ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-06 15:42               ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-07  8:26                 ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07 10:24                   ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-01 15:37       ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-05  5:59         ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 09/24] wfx: add hwio.c/hwio.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01  9:52   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01 12:39     ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 10/24] wfx: add fwio.c/fwio.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01 11:58   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01 15:09     ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-01 16:08       ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-01 16:46         ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-07  8:19           ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07 10:10             ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-07  8:16         ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07 10:13           ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-07  8:08       ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-07  9:35         ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 11/24] wfx: add bh.c/bh.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 12/24] wfx: add hif_api_*.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01 11:41   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01 11:52     ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-01 12:45       ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01 11:45   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01 11:48   ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 13/24] wfx: add hif_tx*.c/hif_tx*.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01  9:55   ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-01 15:17     ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-01 16:13       ` Pali Rohár
2021-10-05  6:12         ` Kalle Valo
2021-10-05  6:44           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-05  8:17           ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-05  8:21             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-05  9:18               ` Jérôme Pouiller
2021-10-05 14:02           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 14/24] wfx: add key.c/key.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 15/24] wfx: add hif_rx.c/hif_rx.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01 10:09   ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 16/24] wfx: add data_rx.c/data_rx.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 17/24] wfx: add queue.c/queue.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 18/24] wfx: add data_tx.c/data_tx.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 19/24] wfx: add sta.c/sta.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 20/24] wfx: add scan.c/scan.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01  9:35   ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 21/24] wfx: add debug.c/debug.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01 12:01   ` Kalle Valo
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 22/24] wfx: add traces.h Jerome Pouiller
2021-09-20 16:11 ` [PATCH v7 24/24] wfx: get out from the staging area Jerome Pouiller
2021-10-01 12:42 ` [PATCH v7 00/24] " Kalle Valo

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