From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:52675 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752289AbdHIAJo (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:09:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 02:09:42 +0200 From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" , linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, Mian Yousaf Kaukab Cc: Matt Redfearn , Alexander Viro , Andrew Morton , David Howells , Dmitry Torokhov , Dan Carpenter , Kees Cook , Jessica Yu , Michal Marek , Linus Torvalds , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-mips@linux-mips.org, Petr Mladek , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] exec: Avoid recursive modprobe for binary format handlers Message-ID: <20170809000942.GV27873@wotan.suse.de> References: <1500645920-28490-1-git-send-email-matt.redfearn@imgtec.com> <20170802001200.GD18884@wotan.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20170802001200.GD18884@wotan.suse.de> Sender: owner-linux-modules@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:12:00AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 03:05:20PM +0100, Matt Redfearn wrote: > > diff --git a/fs/exec.c b/fs/exec.c > > index 62175cbcc801..004bb50a01fe 100644 > > --- a/fs/exec.c > > +++ b/fs/exec.c > > @@ -1644,6 +1644,9 @@ int search_binary_handler(struct linux_binprm *bprm) > > if (printable(bprm->buf[0]) && printable(bprm->buf[1]) && > > printable(bprm->buf[2]) && printable(bprm->buf[3])) > > return retval; > > + /* Game over if we need to load a module to execute modprobe */ > > + if (strcmp(bprm->filename, modprobe_path) == 0) > > + return retval; > > Wouldn't this just break having a binfmt used for modprobe always? The place where you put the check is when a system has CONFIG_MODULES and a first search for built-in handlers yielded no results so it would not break that for built-in. Thinking about this a little further, having an binfmd handler not built-in seems to really be the issue in this particular case and indeed having one as modular really just makes no sense as modprobe would be needed. Although the alternative patch I suggested still makes sense for a *generic loop detection complaint/error fix, putting this check in place and bailing still makes sense as well, but this sort of thing seems to be the type of system build error userspace could try to pick up on pro-actively, ie you should not get to the point you boot into this, the build system should somehow complain about it. Cc'ing linux-modules folks to see if perhaps kmod could do something about this more proactively. Ideally if we could do this via kconfig for an architecture that'd be even better but its not clear if this sort of thing is visible for MIPS on kconfig, so kmod could be a next place to look for. We'd need userpace kmod to verify the binary format for modprobe / kmod was built-in otherwise fail. > This also does not solve another issue I could think of now: > > The *old* implementation would also prevent a set of binaries to daisy chain > a set of 50 different binaries which require different binfmt loaders. The > current implementation enables this and we'd just wait. There's a bound to > the number of binfmd loaders though, so this would be bounded. If however > a 2nd loader loaded the first binary we'd run into the same issue I think. Upon testing -- the 2nd loader will not incur another new bump on kmod concurrent given the original module would have a struct module already present on the modules list, so these loops don't create a kmod concurrent bump, they just keep the system waiting forever. userspace kmod detects these sorts of loops but only for symbol references, it doesn't check for request_module() calls, and even if it did, it would then have to also consider aliasing. kmod handles loops through export symbols references, it won't let a system complete 'make modules_install' target as depmod will fail when this is detected. The kmod git tree has some test for this, see testsuite/module-playground/mod-loop* -- loading any of those yields an error on modules_install target time as depmod picks it up: depmod: ERROR: Found 7 modules in dependency cycles! depmod: ERROR: Cycle detected: mod_loop_a -> mod_loop_b -> mod_loop_c -> mod_loop_a depmod: ERROR: Cycle detected: mod_loop_a -> mod_loop_b -> mod_loop_c -> mod_loop_g depmod: ERROR: Cycle detected: mod_loop_a -> mod_loop_b -> mod_loop_c -> mod_loop_f depmod: ERROR: Cycle detected: mod_loop_d -> mod_loop_e -> mod_loop_d So -- I will continue to submit the new generic alternative patch I suggested but we should discuss this particular error further to try to more proactively prevent it if possible. It seems we already have in place userspace tools to prevent further loops, the new warning should help catch others which escape our imagination at this time. Two other types of issues would be desirable in the future for userspace to detect proactively: o module loops using request_module() and aliases o when the modprobe binfmt is not built-in Luis