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From: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: enhancing module info to allow grouping of firmwares
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 13:42:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF6AEGtHLwUMU71bciM3HbmRePYYgiW8c07yzu5FXymOfemWjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPM=9txaQfHkjs6nWcwBtnYQXtr996dyht7wasJ7QOovjepmAw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 1:35 PM Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey moduly/firmware people,
>
> We are facing a problem in the future of NVIDIA providing giant
> firmwares for their devices that are version locked with unstable
> APIs. Even if they weren't version locked we'd likely have to support
> multiple major versions over time.
>
> Now this becomes a problem because when you generate multiple
> initramfs and stick them into /boot over time the number of firmwares
> MODULE_FIRMWARE will match will increase and dracut will shove them
> all into the initramfs.
>
> I think one way to mitigate that would be to provide some sort of
> grouping of module firmwares that are acceptable, and having dracut
> only pick one from the list to provide in the initramfs (hopefully the
> latest one). That way the driver can provide a list of MODULE_FIRMWARE
> lines and userspace knows they are a group.
>
> I've just little idea how we could expose this via current module
> info, happy to try and come up with an enhanced scheme maybe with a
> fallback to just include all of them but was just wanting to get some
> feedback on whether this was something that anyone has ever considered
> before now.

We have a kind of similar problem with drm/msm and various other SoC
drivers that need fw which is signed with a device or vendor specific
tree.  We've partially solved that with using firmware-name from
devicetree to specify the correct device specific fw needs to be
loaded (ie. something like "qcom/LENOVO/81JL/qcdxkmsuc850.mbn") but
I've no idea how dracut should figure out what fw files should end up
in an initrd

BR,
-R

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-15 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-15 20:35 enhancing module info to allow grouping of firmwares Dave Airlie
2023-03-15 20:42 ` Rob Clark [this message]
2023-03-15 20:56 ` Alex Deucher
2023-03-15 21:18   ` Dave Airlie
2023-03-15 22:40     ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-16  8:52 ` Jani Nikula

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