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From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 22/58] fs/f2fs: Utilize new kmap_thread()
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 23:56:35 -0700
Message-ID: <20201012065635.GB2046448@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201010013036.GD1122@sol.localdomain>

On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 06:30:36PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 01:39:54AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 02:34:34PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 09, 2020 at 12:49:57PM -0700, ira.weiny@intel.com wrote:
> > > > The kmap() calls in this FS are localized to a single thread.  To avoid
> > > > the over head of global PKRS updates use the new kmap_thread() call.
> > > >
> > > > @@ -2410,12 +2410,12 @@ static inline struct page *f2fs_pagecache_get_page(
> > > >  
> > > >  static inline void f2fs_copy_page(struct page *src, struct page *dst)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	char *src_kaddr = kmap(src);
> > > > -	char *dst_kaddr = kmap(dst);
> > > > +	char *src_kaddr = kmap_thread(src);
> > > > +	char *dst_kaddr = kmap_thread(dst);
> > > >  
> > > >  	memcpy(dst_kaddr, src_kaddr, PAGE_SIZE);
> > > > -	kunmap(dst);
> > > > -	kunmap(src);
> > > > +	kunmap_thread(dst);
> > > > +	kunmap_thread(src);
> > > >  }
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't it make more sense to switch cases like this to kmap_atomic()?
> > > The pages are only mapped to do a memcpy(), then they're immediately unmapped.
> > 
> > Maybe you missed the earlier thread from Thomas trying to do something
> > similar for rather different reasons ...
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200919091751.011116649@linutronix.de/
> 
> I did miss it.  I'm not subscribed to any of the mailing lists it was sent to.
> 
> Anyway, it shouldn't matter.  Patchsets should be standalone, and not require
> reading random prior threads on linux-kernel to understand.

Sorry, but I did not think that the discussion above was directly related.  If
I'm not mistaken, Thomas' work was directed at relaxing kmap_atomic() into
kmap_thread() calls.  While interesting, it is not the point of this series.  I
want to restrict kmap() callers into kmap_thread().

For this series it was considered to change the kmap_thread() call sites to
kmap_atomic().  But like I said in the cover letter kmap_atomic() is not the
same semantic.  It is too strict.  Perhaps I should have expanded that
explanation.

> 
> And I still don't really understand.  After this patchset, there is still code
> nearly identical to the above (doing a temporary mapping just for a memcpy) that
> would still be using kmap_atomic().

I don't understand.  You mean there would be other call sites calling:

kmap_atomic()
memcpy()
kunmap_atomic()

?

> Is the idea that later, such code will be
> converted to use kmap_thread() instead?  If not, why use one over the other?
 

The reason for the new call is that with PKS added behind kmap we have 3 levels
of mapping we want.

global kmap (can span threads and sleep)
'thread' kmap (can sleep but not span threads)
'atomic' kmap (can't sleep nor span threads [by definition])

As Matthew said perhaps 'global kmaps' may be best changed to vmaps?  I just
don't know the details of every call site.

And since I don't know the call site details if there are kmap_thread() calls
which are better off as kmap_atomic() calls I think it is worth converting
them.  But I made the assumption that kmap users would already be calling
kmap_atomic() if they could (because it is more efficient).

Ira

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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-09 19:49 [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 00/58] PMEM: Introduce stray write protection for PMEM ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 01/58] x86/pks: Add a global pkrs option ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 02/58] x86/pks/test: Add testing for global option ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 03/58] memremap: Add zone device access protection ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 04/58] kmap: Add stray access protection for device pages ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 05/58] kmap: Introduce k[un]map_thread ira.weiny
2020-11-10  1:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-10  4:59     ` Ira Weiny
2020-11-10  8:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 06/58] kmap: Introduce k[un]map_thread debugging ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 07/58] drivers/drbd: Utilize new kmap_thread() ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 08/58] drivers/firmware_loader: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 09/58] drivers/gpu: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 22:03   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-10 23:01     ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 10/58] drivers/rdma: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 11/58] drivers/net: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 12/58] fs/afs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 13/58] fs/btrfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 14/58] fs/cifs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 15/58] fs/ecryptfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 16/58] fs/gfs2: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 17/58] fs/nilfs2: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 18/58] fs/hfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 19/58] fs/hfsplus: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 20/58] fs/jffs2: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 21/58] fs/nfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 22/58] fs/f2fs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 21:34   ` Eric Biggers
2020-10-10  0:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-10  1:30       ` Eric Biggers
2020-10-12  6:56         ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2020-10-12 16:19           ` Eric Biggers
2020-10-12 16:28             ` Dave Hansen
2020-10-12 16:44               ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-12 19:53                 ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-12 20:02                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-12 23:31                     ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-10  2:43     ` James Bottomley
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 23/58] fs/fuse: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:49 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 24/58] fs/freevxfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-13 11:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-13 20:52     ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 25/58] fs/reiserfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 26/58] fs/zonefs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-12  2:30   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 27/58] fs/ubifs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 28/58] fs/cachefiles: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 29/58] fs/ntfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 30/58] fs/romfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 31/58] fs/vboxsf: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 32/58] fs/hostfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 33/58] fs/cramfs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-13 18:36   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-10-13 18:44   ` Dan Williams
2020-10-13 19:36     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-10-13 19:41       ` Dan Williams
2020-10-13 20:01       ` Al Viro
2020-10-13 20:50         ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-13 20:45       ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 34/58] fs/erofs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 35/58] fs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 36/58] fs/ext2: Use ext2_put_page ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 37/58] fs/ext2: Utilize new kmap_thread() ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 38/58] fs/isofs: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 39/58] fs/jffs2: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 40/58] net: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 41/58] drivers/target: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 42/58] drivers/scsi: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 43/58] drivers/mmc: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 44/58] drivers/xen: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 45/58] drivers/firmware: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 46/58] drives/staging: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 47/58] drivers/mtd: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 48/58] drivers/md: " ira.weiny
2020-10-10  2:20   ` Coly Li
2020-10-12  5:28     ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-12  7:40       ` Coly Li
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 49/58] drivers/misc: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 50/58] drivers/android: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 51/58] kernel: " ira.weiny
2020-10-10  3:43   ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 52/58] mm: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 53/58] lib: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 54/58] powerpc: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 55/58] samples: " ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 56/58] dax: Stray access protection for dax_direct_access() ira.weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 57/58] nvdimm/pmem: Stray access protection for pmem->virt_addr ira.weiny
2020-10-10  2:53   ` John Hubbard
2020-10-12  5:52     ` Ira Weiny
2020-10-09 19:50 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 58/58] [dax|pmem]: Enable stray access protection ira.weiny
2020-10-10 11:36 ` [PATCH RFC PKS/PMEM 10/58] drivers/rdma: Utilize new kmap_thread() Bernard Metzler
2020-10-12  4:47   ` Ira Weiny

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