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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo@jmondi.org>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] media: i2c: fix max9271 build dependencies
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 15:23:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210208152359.17831275@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YCE/OkSfIbxUB4XQ@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

Em Mon, 8 Feb 2021 15:40:10 +0200
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> escreveu:

> Hi Mauro,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 02:31:50PM +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:11:02 +0100 Mauro Carvalho Chehab escreveu:  
> > > Em Mon, 8 Feb 2021 12:41:42 +0100 Jacopo Mondi escreveu:
> > >   
> > > > > > If you do, instead:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     if VIDEO_V4L2 && I2C
> > > > > > 	config VIDEO_MAX9271_SERIALIZER
> > > > > > 		tristate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 	config VIDEO_RDACM20
> > > > > > 		select VIDEO_MAX9271_SERIALIZER
> > > > > > 		...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 	config VIDEO_RDACM21
> > > > > > 		select VIDEO_MAX9271_SERIALIZER
> > > > > > 		...
> > > > > >     endif
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then you also won't need:
> > > > > > 	depends on VIDEO_MAX9271_SERIALIZER || !VIDEO_MAX9271_SERIALIZER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As select should do the right thing in this case, ensuring that MAX9271
> > > > > > will be builtin either if RDACM20 or RDACM21 is builtin.    
> > > > >
> > > > > I also vote for usage of "select".
> > > > >    
> > > > 
> > > > I would prefer that too, I was concerned about possible un-met
> > > > dependencies, as Sakari pointed out, but the current situation is no
> > > > better, as the only Kconfig symbols where those can be listed are the
> > > > camera modules one.  
> > > 
> > > Works for me. I'll make a patch for it.  
> > 
> > Hmm... after taking a deeper look at the rcma20 drivers, and on its
> > Kconfig help text:
> > 
> > 	config VIDEO_RDACM20
> > 		tristate "IMI RDACM20 camera support"
> > 		select V4L2_FWNODE
> > 		select VIDEO_V4L2_SUBDEV_API
> > 		select MEDIA_CONTROLLER
> > 		help
> > 		  This driver supports the IMI RDACM20 GMSL camera, used in
> > 		  ADAS systems.
> > 
> > 		  This camera should be used in conjunction with a GMSL
> > 		  deserialiser such as the MAX9286.
> > 
> > I'm starting to suspect that there's something very wrong here...
> > 
> > The help text mentions the MAX9286 driver, which is a complete
> > driver, and not MAX9271, which seems to implement a set of PHY functions
> > needed by those drivers, and which lacks a proper I2C binding code on it.
> > 
> > The I2C binding code is, instead, inside RDACM20 and RDACM21:
> > 
> > 	static int rdacm21_initialize(struct rdacm21_device *dev)
> > 	{
> > 		int ret;
> > 
> > 		/* Verify communication with the MAX9271: ping to wakeup. */
> > 		dev->serializer.client->addr = MAX9271_DEFAULT_ADDR;
> > 		i2c_smbus_read_byte(dev->serializer.client);
> > 		usleep_range(3000, 5000);
> > 
> > 		/* Enable reverse channel and disable the serial link. */
> > 		ret = max9271_set_serial_link(&dev->serializer, false);
> > 		if (ret)
> > 			return ret;
> > 
> > 		/* Configure I2C bus at 105Kbps speed and configure GMSL. */
> > 		ret = max9271_configure_i2c(&dev->serializer,
> > 					    MAX9271_I2CSLVSH_469NS_234NS |
> > 					    MAX9271_I2CSLVTO_1024US |
> > 					    MAX9271_I2CMSTBT_105KBPS);
> > 
> > 		/* Several other max9271-specific init code */
> > 
> > 		ret = ov490_initialize(dev);
> > 		if (ret)
> > 			return ret;
> > 
> > And, at max9271 "driver", there's just a bunch of exported functions.
> > 
> > This is all wrong.
> > 
> > I'm seriously considering to move all those 3 drivers to staging,
> > while they're not fixed to use a proper I2C binding mechanism.  
> 
> They can't. The RDACM20 and RDACM21 are GMSL cameras, that are
> internally made of a GMSL serializer (MAX9271 in both cases) and a
> camera sensor (OV10625 for the RDACM20, OV10640 + OV490 ISP for the
> RDAMC21). The sensor and serializer are tightly couple, so much so that
> in the RDACM20, there's a microcontroller that configures both when
> power is applied. In the RDACM21, the OV490 firmware has a similar role.
> Due to the tight coupling and the presense of a device-specific
> microcontroller, the cameras need to be handled as a whole, we can't
> have one driver for the sensor and one driver for the serializer that
> would work in isolation and be controlled separately from userspace. The
> MAX9271, however, still needs to be configured from the host, and we've
> thus moved common code to a common file instead of duplicating it.

I'm not saying that max9271 should expose a media-controller (or any
other interface) to the userspace. It is perfectly fine to have the 
RDACM20 and RDACM21 drivers fully controlling it. There are *lots of* 
other media drivers that are implemented using multiple separate I2C
chips. Several of them have internally micro-controller(s) that may
control some I2C devices.

There are even some DVB designs where there is a microcontroller
(usually cypress) that it is connected to different I2C chips.

For instance, 23 of them use a Cypress microcontroller:

	$ git grep -li cypress drivers/media/|grep .c$|wc -l
	23

The problem here is that the max9271 probing code is at the wrong
place. It belongs to max9271 driver, and should not be outside
it.

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-08 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-08  0:32 linux-next: build warning after merge of the v4l-dvb tree Stephen Rothwell
2021-02-08  6:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08  8:33   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-08  8:49     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08  8:52       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-08  9:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08  6:53 ` [PATCH] media: i2c: fix max9271 build dependencies Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08  7:27   ` Sakari Ailus
2021-02-08  8:36     ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-02-08  8:41       ` Sakari Ailus
2021-02-08  8:59         ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-02-08  9:03           ` Sakari Ailus
2021-02-08  9:08         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08  9:24           ` Sakari Ailus
2021-02-08 10:07             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08 11:32               ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-02-08 11:41                 ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-02-08 13:11                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08 13:31                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08 13:40                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-02-08 14:23                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2021-02-08 14:31                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-02-08 15:01                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08 13:55                       ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-02-08 14:14                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08 14:49                           ` Jacopo Mondi
2021-02-08 15:42                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-02-08 16:26                               ` Laurent Pinchart

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