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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
Cc: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave.bueso@gmail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	linux-next <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Gonzalez <jgonzalez@linets.cl>
Subject: Re: ipc-msg broken again on 3.11-rc7?
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:16:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+icZUVc6fhW+TTB56x68LooS8DqhA8n3CQzgKkXQmbyH+ryUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5224BCF6.2080401@colorfullife.com>

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [forgot to cc everyone, thus I'll summarize some mails...]
>
> On 09/02/2013 06:58 AM, Vineet Gupta wrote:
>>
>> On 08/31/2013 11:20 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>>
>>> Vineet, actual patch for what Davidlohr suggests attached. Can you try
>>> it?
>>>
>>>               Linus
>>
>> Apologies for late in getting back to this - I was away from my computer
>> for a bit.
>>
>> Unfortunately, with a quick test, this patch doesn't help.
>> FWIW, this is latest mainline (.config attached).
>>
>> Let me know what diagnostics I can add to help with this.
>
>
> msgctl08 is a bulk message send/receive test. I had to look at it once
> before, then it was a broken hardware:
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/6/12/365
> This can be ruled out, because it works with 3.10.
>
> msgctl08 uses pairs of threads: one thread does msgsnd(), the other one
> msgrcv().
> There is no synchronization, i.e. the msgsnd() can race ahead until the
> kernel buffer is full and then a block with msgrcv() follows or it could be
> pairs of alternating msgsnd()/msgrcv() operations.
> No special features are used: each pair of threads has it's own message
> queues, all messages have type=1.
>
> Vineet ran strace - and just before the signal from killing msgctl08, there
> are only msgsnd()/msgrcv() calls.
> Vineet:
> a) could you run strace tomorrow again, with '-ttt' as an additional option?
> I don't see where exactly it hangs.
> b) Could you check that it is not just a performance regression?
>     Does ./msgctl08 1000 16 hang, too?
>
> In ipc/msg.c, I haven't seen any obvious reason why it should hang.
> The only race I spotted so far is this one:
>>
>>       for (;;) {
>>                 struct msg_sender s;
>>
>>                 err = -EACCES;
>>                 if (ipcperms(ns, &msq->q_perm, S_IWUGO))
>>                         goto out_unlock1;
>>
>>
>>                 err = security_msg_queue_msgsnd(msq, msg, msgflg);
>>                 if (err)
>>                         goto out_unlock1;
>>
>>                 if (msgsz + msq->q_cbytes <= msq->q_qbytes &&
>>                                 1 + msq->q_qnum <= msq->q_qbytes) {
>>                         break;
>>                 }
>>
> [snip]
>>
>>         if (!pipelined_send(msq, msg)) {
>>                 /* no one is waiting for this message, enqueue it */
>>                 list_add_tail(&msg->m_list, &msq->q_messages);
>>                 msq->q_cbytes += msgsz;
>>                 msq->q_qnum++;
>>                 atomic_add(msgsz, &ns->msg_bytes);
>
>
> The access to msq->q_cbytes is not protected. Thus two parallel msgsnd()
> calls could succeed, even if both together brings the queue length above the
> limit.
> But it can't explain why 3.11-rc7 hangs: As explained above, msgctl08 uses
> one queue for each thread pair.
>

Just FYI:

Linux Testing Project (LTP) will do a new release in the 1st September week.
Some IPC test-suites were reworked.
Manfred can you look at them ("...msgctl08 uses one queue for each
thread pair.").
( Might be worth to throw some words at the LTP mailing-list (that
test-case is not ideal, etc.)? )

- Sedat -

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-03  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-21 19:34 linux-next: Tree for Jun 21 [ BROKEN ipc/ipc-msg ] Sedat Dilek
2013-06-21 22:07 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-21 22:54   ` Sedat Dilek
2013-06-21 23:11     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-21 23:14       ` Sedat Dilek
2013-06-21 23:15     ` Sedat Dilek
2013-06-25 16:10 ` Sedat Dilek
2013-06-25 20:33   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-06-25 21:41     ` Sedat Dilek
2013-06-25 23:29       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-28 11:58         ` ipc-msg broken again on 3.11-rc7? (was Re: linux-next: Tree for Jun 21 [ BROKEN ipc/ipc-msg ]) Vineet Gupta
2013-08-29  3:04           ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-29  7:21             ` Vineet Gupta
2013-08-29  7:52               ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30  8:19                 ` Vineet Gupta
2013-08-30  8:27                   ` Sedat Dilek
2013-08-30  8:46                     ` ipc-msg broken again on 3.11-rc7? Vineet Gupta
     [not found]                       ` <CALE5RAvaa4bb-9xAnBe07Yp2n+Nn4uGEgqpLrKMuOE8hhZv00Q@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-30 16:31                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2013-08-31 17:50                           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-09-02  4:58                             ` Vineet Gupta
2013-09-02 16:29                               ` Manfred Spraul
2013-09-03  7:16                                 ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
2013-09-03  7:34                                   ` Vineet Gupta
2013-09-03  7:49                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2013-09-03  8:43                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2013-09-03  8:44                                 ` Vineet Gupta
2013-09-03  8:57                                   ` Manfred Spraul
2013-09-03  9:16                                     ` Vineet Gupta
2013-09-03  9:23                                       ` Manfred Spraul
2013-09-03  9:51                                         ` Vineet Gupta
2013-09-03 10:16                                           ` Manfred Spraul
2013-09-03 10:32                                             ` ipc msg now works (was Re: ipc-msg broken again on 3.11-rc7?) Vineet Gupta
2013-09-03 22:46                                               ` Sedat Dilek

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