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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>,
	"Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com,
	Linux Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: stracpy
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 17:58:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b77a3752d9b9897b8e65003ad88991b18ee33029.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg8vLmmwTGhXM51NpSWJW8RFEAKoXxG0Hu_Q9Uwbjj8kw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2019-08-20 at 17:43 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:20 PM Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > Umm, btw: have you actually looked at stracpy?
> 
> Yes, Joe, I have.
> 
> What part of "there are now so many of them that no human being can
> keep track of them" didn't you see as a problem?

Well, the actual post-conversion uses to stracpy make the old ones
(strcpy/strlcpy/strncpy) exceptional uses that can be analyzed
quite a bit more easily.

btw: I really don't care what any convenience macro is named.

Most all of the strlcpy and strscpy uses actually _do_ copy to
a char array and strscpy is a simple interface that is somewhat
frequently misused.

> How many broken string functions are we going to do, adding yet
> another one when you notice that the _last_ one wasn't great?
>
> We never seem to remove the broken ones. We just add yet another one,
> and have a never-ending jumble of random letters.

<shrug> Intermediate problems.

> I would seriously suggest doing something like
>  and 
>    copy_string( dst, dstsize, src, srcsize, FLAGS );
> 
> where FLAGS migth be "pad" or whatever. Make it return the size of the
> resulting string, because while it can be convenient to pass 'dst" on,
> it's not useful.

That's simply not convenient for pointers.

Auditing the kernel for those unsized uses is a
large scope problem.  Even anything that uses
PAGE_SIZE sized allocations does sprintf
instead of snprintf.  Any show_<foo> for instance.

> And then maybe just add the helper macro that turns an array into a
> "pointer, size" combination, rather than yet another letter jumble.

Good luck with that when an unsized char pointer is the thing
passed to a function.

There are _way_ too many of those already in the kernel.
Simple strcpy is already used > 2000 times.




  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-21  0:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]     ` <6a5f470c1375289908c37632572c4aa60d6486fa.camel@perches.com>
2019-08-10 20:33       ` [PATCH] Makefile: Convert -Wimplicit-fallthrough=3 to just -Wimplicit-fallthrough for clang Joe Perches
2019-08-16 19:58         ` rfc: treewide scripted patch mechanism? (was: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: Convert -Wimplicit-fallthrough=3 to just -Wimplicit-fallthrough for clang) Joe Perches
2019-08-19 23:24           ` rfc: treewide scripted patch mechanism? (was: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: Convert -Wimplicit-fallthrough=3 to just -Wimplicit-fallthrough for clang)QUILT Stephen Rothwell
2019-08-20  0:08             ` Joe Perches
2019-08-20 23:28               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-20 23:37                 ` Joe Perches
2019-08-21  0:39                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-26  8:58                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-08-21  0:20                 ` Joe Perches
2019-08-21  0:43                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-21  0:58                     ` Joe Perches [this message]
2019-08-21  4:01                     ` Willy Tarreau
2019-08-21  0:33               ` Stephen Rothwell

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