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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>
Cc: "Miklos Szeredi" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"Andreas Grünbacher" <andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com>,
	"Patrick Plagwitz" <Patrick_Plagwitz@web.de>,
	"linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux NFS list" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux FS-devel Mailing List" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] overlayfs: ignore empty NFSv4 ACLs in ext4 upperdir
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:58:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161206185806.GC31197@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHc6FU4JQ28BFZE9_8A06gtkMvvKDzFmw9=ceNPYvnMXEimDMw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 02:18:31PM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Andreas Grünbacher
> > <andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 2016-12-06 0:19 GMT+01:00 Andreas Grünbacher <andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com>:
> >
> >>> It's not hard to come up with a heuristic that determines if a
> >>> system.nfs4_acl value is equivalent to a file mode, and to ignore the
> >>> attribute in that case. (The file mode is transmitted in its own
> >>> attribute already, so actually converting .) That way, overlayfs could
> >>> still fail copying up files that have an actual ACL. It's still an
> >>> ugly hack ...
> >>
> >> Actually, that kind of heuristic would make sense in the NFS client
> >> which could then hide the "system.nfs4_acl" attribute.
> >
> > Even simpler would be if knfsd didn't send the attribute if not
> > necessary.  Looks like there's code actively creating the nfs4_acl on
> > the wire even if the filesystem had none:
> >
> >     pacl = get_acl(inode, ACL_TYPE_ACCESS);
> >     if (!pacl)
> >         pacl = posix_acl_from_mode(inode->i_mode, GFP_KERNEL);
> >
> > What's the point?
> 
> That's how the protocol is specified.

Yep, even if we could make that change to nfsd it wouldn't help the
client with the large number of other servers that are out there
(including older knfsd's).

--b.

> (I'm not saying that that's very helpful.)
> 
> Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-06 18:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5a6862bd-924d-25e4-2a8e-ba4f51e66604@web.de>
2016-12-05  9:28 ` [PATCH] overlayfs: ignore empty NFSv4 ACLs in ext4 upperdir Miklos Szeredi
2016-12-05 15:19   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-12-05 15:36     ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-12-05 16:25       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-12-05 18:25         ` Patrick Plagwitz
2016-12-05 19:37         ` Andreas Grünbacher
2016-12-05 22:58           ` Patrick Plagwitz
2016-12-05 23:19             ` Andreas Grünbacher
2016-12-05 23:24               ` Andreas Grünbacher
2016-12-06 10:08                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-12-06 13:18                   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-12-06 18:58                     ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2019-05-02  2:02                       ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02  2:54                         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-02  3:57                           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02 14:04                             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2019-05-02 14:28                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2019-05-02 15:08                                 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2019-05-02 17:16                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-02 17:53                                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2019-05-02 23:04                                 ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02 23:24                               ` NeilBrown
2019-05-03  6:54                                 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2019-05-02 17:26                             ` Goetz, Patrick G
2019-05-02 17:44                               ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2019-05-02 17:51                                 ` Goetz, Patrick G
2019-05-03 15:27                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-03 17:39                                     ` Goetz, Patrick G
2019-05-02  4:35                         ` [PATCH] OVL: add honoracl=off mount option NeilBrown
2019-05-02  5:08                           ` Randy Dunlap
2019-05-02 11:46                           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-02 23:19                             ` NeilBrown
2019-05-02 13:47                           ` J. R. Okajima
2019-05-03 15:35                         ` [PATCH] overlayfs: ignore empty NFSv4 ACLs in ext4 upperdir J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-03 17:26                           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-03 17:31                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-03 17:41                               ` Amir Goldstein
2019-05-03 17:51                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2019-05-07  0:24                           ` NeilBrown
2019-05-10 20:09                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-09-18  9:07                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2019-09-18 19:49                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-05-07  8:07                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2019-05-07 23:51                             ` J. Bruce Fields

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