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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	"jack@suse.cz" <jack@suse.cz>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"nfbrown@suse.com" <nfbrown@suse.com>,
	Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Performance regression with random IO pattern from the client
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:19:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220330161952.haopqr342qlij5hg@quack3.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FF014DFC-EC48-4CB7-A3F4-04FBB82E4A27@oracle.com>

On Wed 30-03-22 15:38:38, Chuck Lever III wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 2022-03-30 at 12:34 +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> during our performance testing we have noticed that commit
> >> b6669305d35a
> >> ("nfsd: Reduce the number of calls to nfsd_file_gc()") has introduced
> >> a
> >> performance regression when a client does random buffered writes. The
> >> workload on NFS client is fio running 4 processed doing random
> >> buffered writes to 4
> >> different files and the files are large enough to hit dirty limits
> >> and
> >> force writeback from the client. In particular the invocation is
> >> like:
> >> 
> >> fio --direct=0 --ioengine=sync --thread --directory=/mnt/mnt1 --
> >> invalidate=1 --group_reporting=1 --runtime=300 --fallocate=posix --
> >> ramp_time=10 --name=RandomReads-128000-4k-4 --new_group --
> >> rw=randwrite --size=4000m --numjobs=4 --bs=4k --
> >> filename_format=FioWorkloads.\$jobnum --end_fsync=1
> >> 
> >> The reason why commit b6669305d35a regresses performance is the
> >> filemap_flush() call it adds into nfsd_file_put(). Before this commit
> >> writeback on the server happened from nfsd_commit() code resulting in
> >> rather long semisequential streams of 4k writes. After commit
> >> b6669305d35a
> >> all the writeback happens from filemap_flush() calls resulting in
> >> much
> >> longer average seek distance (IO from different files is more
> >> interleaved)
> >> and about 16-20% regression in the achieved writeback throughput when
> >> the
> >> backing store is rotational storage.
> >> 
> >> I think the filemap_flush() from nfsd_file_put() is indeed rather
> >> aggressive and I think we'd be better off to just leave writeback to
> >> either
> >> nfsd_commit() or standard dirty page cleaning happening on the
> >> system. I
> >> assume the rationale for the filemap_flush() call was to make it more
> >> likely the file can be evicted during the garbage collection run? Was
> >> there
> >> any particular problem leading to addition of this call or was it
> >> just "it
> >> seemed like a good idea" thing?
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance for ideas.
> >> 
> >>                                                                 Honza
> > 
> > It was mainly introduced to reduce the amount of work that
> > nfsd_file_free() needs to do. In particular when re-exporting NFS, the
> > call to filp_close() can be expensive because it synchronously flushes
> > out dirty pages. That again means that some of the calls to
> > nfsd_file_dispose_list() can end up being very expensive (particularly
> > the ones run by the garbage collector itself).
> 
> The "no regressions" rule suggests that some kind of action needs
> to be taken. I don't have a sense of whether Jan's workload or NFS
> re-export is the more common use case, however.
> 
> I can see that filp_close() on a file on an NFS mount could be
> costly if that file has dirty pages, due to the NFS client's
> "flush on close" semantic.
> 
> Trond, are there alternatives to flushing in the nfsd_file_put()
> path? I'm willing to entertain bug fix patches rather than a
> mechanical revert of b6669305d35a.

Yeah, I don't think we need to rush fixing this with a revert. Also because
just removing the filemap_flush() from nfsd_file_put() would keep other
benefits of that commit while fixing the regression AFAIU. But I think
making flushing less aggressive is desirable because as I wrote in my other
reply, currently it is preventing pagecache from accumulating enough dirty
data for a good IO pattern.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-30 10:34 Performance regression with random IO pattern from the client Jan Kara
2022-03-30 15:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-30 15:38   ` Chuck Lever III
2022-03-30 16:19     ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-30 16:19     ` Jan Kara [this message]
2022-03-30 17:56       ` Chuck Lever III
2022-03-30 22:02         ` Trond Myklebust
2022-03-31 13:09           ` Jan Kara
2022-03-31 14:20             ` Chuck Lever III
2022-03-31 14:22               ` Chuck Lever III
2022-03-30 16:14   ` Jan Kara
2022-03-31  8:43 ` Thorsten Leemhuis

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