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From: Daire Byrne <daire@dneg.com>
To: bfields <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	linux-cachefs <linux-cachefs@redhat.com>,
	linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Adventures in NFS re-exporting
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:57:24 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <217712894.87456370.1605358643862.JavaMail.zimbra@dneg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201113222600.GC1299@fieldses.org>


----- On 13 Nov, 2020, at 22:26, bfields bfields@fieldses.org wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 09:50:50AM -0500, bfields wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:05:57PM +0000, Daire Byrne wrote:
>> > So, I can't lay claim to identifying the exact optimisation/hack that
>> > improves the retention of the re-export server's client cache when
>> > re-exporting an NFSv3 server (which is then read by many clients). We
>> > were working with an engineer at the time who showed an interest in
>> > our use case and after we supplied a reproducer he suggested modifying
>> > the nfs/inode.c
>> > 
>> > -		if (!inode_eq_iversion_raw(inode, fattr->change_attr)) {
>> > +		if (inode_peek_iversion_raw(inode) < fattr->change_attr)
>> > {
>> > 
>> > His reasoning at the time was:
>> > 
>> > "Fixes inode invalidation caused by read access. The least important
>> > bit is ORed with 1 and causes the inode version to differ from the one
>> > seen on the NFS share. This in turn causes unnecessary re-download
>> > impacting the performance significantly. This fix makes it only
>> > re-fetch file content if inode version seen on the server is newer
>> > than the one on the client."
>> > 
>> > But I've always been puzzled by why this only seems to be the case
>> > when using knfsd to re-export the (NFSv3) client mount. Using multiple
>> > processes on a standard client mount never causes any similar
>> > re-validations. And this happens with a completely read-only share
>> > which is why I started to think it has something to do with atimes as
>> > that could perhaps still cause a "write" modification even when
>> > read-only?
>> 
>> Ah-hah!  So, it's inode_query_iversion() that's modifying a nfs inode's
>> i_version.  That's a special thing that only nfsd would do.
>> 
>> I think that's totally fixable, we'll just have to think a little about
>> how....
> 
> I wonder if something like this helps?--b.
> 
> commit 0add88a9ccc5
> Author: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com>
> Date:   Fri Nov 13 17:03:04 2020 -0500
> 
>    nfs: don't mangle i_version on NFS
>    
>    The i_version on NFS has pretty much opaque to the client, so we don't
>    want to give the low bit any special interpretation.
>    
>    Define a new FS_PRIVATE_I_VERSION flag for filesystems that manage the
>    i_version on their own.
>    
>    Signed-off-by: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com>
> 
> diff --git a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> index 29ec8b09a52d..9b8dd5b713a7 100644
> --- a/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> +++ b/fs/nfs/fs_context.c
> @@ -1488,7 +1488,8 @@ struct file_system_type nfs_fs_type = {
> 	.init_fs_context	= nfs_init_fs_context,
> 	.parameters		= nfs_fs_parameters,
> 	.kill_sb		= nfs_kill_super,
> -	.fs_flags		= FS_RENAME_DOES_D_MOVE|FS_BINARY_MOUNTDATA,
> +	.fs_flags		= FS_RENAME_DOES_D_MOVE|FS_BINARY_MOUNTDATA|
> +				  FS_PRIVATE_I_VERSION,
> };
> MODULE_ALIAS_FS("nfs");
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(nfs_fs_type);
> @@ -1500,7 +1501,8 @@ struct file_system_type nfs4_fs_type = {
> 	.init_fs_context	= nfs_init_fs_context,
> 	.parameters		= nfs_fs_parameters,
> 	.kill_sb		= nfs_kill_super,
> -	.fs_flags		= FS_RENAME_DOES_D_MOVE|FS_BINARY_MOUNTDATA,
> +	.fs_flags		= FS_RENAME_DOES_D_MOVE|FS_BINARY_MOUNTDATA|
> +				  FS_PRIVATE_I_VERSION,
> };
> MODULE_ALIAS_FS("nfs4");
> MODULE_ALIAS("nfs4");
> diff --git a/include/linux/fs.h b/include/linux/fs.h
> index 21cc971fd960..c5bb4268228b 100644
> --- a/include/linux/fs.h
> +++ b/include/linux/fs.h
> @@ -2217,6 +2217,7 @@ struct file_system_type {
> #define FS_HAS_SUBTYPE		4
> #define FS_USERNS_MOUNT		8	/* Can be mounted by userns root */
> #define FS_DISALLOW_NOTIFY_PERM	16	/* Disable fanotify permission events */
> +#define FS_PRIVATE_I_VERSION	32	/* i_version managed by filesystem */
> #define FS_THP_SUPPORT		8192	/* Remove once all fs converted */
> #define FS_RENAME_DOES_D_MOVE	32768	/* FS will handle d_move() during rename()
> internally. */
> 	int (*init_fs_context)(struct fs_context *);
> diff --git a/include/linux/iversion.h b/include/linux/iversion.h
> index 2917ef990d43..52c790a847de 100644
> --- a/include/linux/iversion.h
> +++ b/include/linux/iversion.h
> @@ -307,6 +307,8 @@ inode_query_iversion(struct inode *inode)
> 	u64 cur, old, new;
> 
> 	cur = inode_peek_iversion_raw(inode);
> +	if (inode->i_sb->s_type->fs_flags & FS_PRIVATE_I_VERSION)
> +		return cur;
> 	for (;;) {
> 		/* If flag is already set, then no need to swap */
>  		if (cur & I_VERSION_QUERIED) {

Yes, I can confirm that this absolutely helps! I replaced our (brute force) iversion patch with this (much nicer) patch and we got the same improvement; nfsd and it's clients no longer cause the re-export server's client cache to constantly be re-validated. The re-export server can now serve the same results to many clients from cache. Thanks so much for spending the time to track this down. If merged, future (crazy) NFS re-exporters will benefit from the metadata performance improvement/acceleration!

Now if anyone has any ideas why all the read calls to the originating server are limited to a maximum of 128k (with rsize=1M) when coming via the re-export server's nfsd threads, I see that as the next biggest performance issue. Reading directly on the re-export server with a userspace process issues 1MB reads as expected. It doesn't happen for writes (wsize=1MB all the way through) but I'm not sure if that has more to do with async and write back caching helping to build up the size before commit?

I figure the other remaining items on my (wish) list are probably more in the "won't fix" or "can't fix" category (except maybe the NFSv4.0 input/output errors?).

Daire

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-14 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-07 17:31 Adventures in NFS re-exporting Daire Byrne
2020-09-08  9:40 ` Mkrtchyan, Tigran
2020-09-08 11:06   ` Daire Byrne
2020-09-15 17:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-09-15 19:59   ` Trond Myklebust
2020-09-16 16:01     ` Daire Byrne
2020-10-19 16:19       ` Daire Byrne
2020-10-19 17:53         ` [PATCH 0/2] Add NFSv3 emulation of the lookupp operation trondmy
2020-10-19 17:53           ` [PATCH 1/2] NFSv3: Refactor nfs3_proc_lookup() to split out the dentry trondmy
2020-10-19 17:53             ` [PATCH 2/2] NFSv3: Add emulation of the lookupp() operation trondmy
2020-10-19 20:05         ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Add NFSv3 emulation of the lookupp operation trondmy
2020-10-19 20:05           ` [PATCH v2 1/2] NFSv3: Refactor nfs3_proc_lookup() to split out the dentry trondmy
2020-10-19 20:05             ` [PATCH v2 2/2] NFSv3: Add emulation of the lookupp() operation trondmy
2020-10-20 18:37         ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Add NFSv3 emulation of the lookupp operation trondmy
2020-10-20 18:37           ` [PATCH v3 1/3] NFSv3: Refactor nfs3_proc_lookup() to split out the dentry trondmy
2020-10-20 18:37             ` [PATCH v3 2/3] NFSv3: Add emulation of the lookupp() operation trondmy
2020-10-20 18:37               ` [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSv4: Observe the NFS_MOUNT_SOFTREVAL flag in _nfs4_proc_lookupp trondmy
2020-10-21  9:33         ` Adventures in NFS re-exporting Daire Byrne
2020-11-09 16:02           ` bfields
2020-11-12 13:01             ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-12 13:57               ` bfields
2020-11-12 18:33                 ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-12 20:55                   ` bfields
2020-11-12 23:05                     ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-13 14:50                       ` bfields
2020-11-13 22:26                         ` bfields
2020-11-14 12:57                           ` Daire Byrne [this message]
2020-11-16 15:18                             ` bfields
2020-11-16 15:53                             ` bfields
2020-11-16 19:21                               ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-16 15:29                           ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-16 15:56                             ` bfields
2020-11-16 16:03                               ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-16 16:14                                 ` bfields
2020-11-16 16:38                                   ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-16 19:03                                     ` bfields
2020-11-16 20:03                                       ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-17  3:16                                         ` bfields
2020-11-17  3:18                                           ` [PATCH 1/4] nfsd: move fill_{pre,post}_wcc to nfsfh.c J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17  3:18                                             ` [PATCH 2/4] nfsd: pre/post attr is using wrong change attribute J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17 12:34                                               ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-17 15:26                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17 15:34                                                   ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-20 22:38                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:39                                                       ` [PATCH 1/8] nfsd: only call inode_query_iversion in the I_VERSION case J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 2/8] nfsd: simplify nfsd4_change_info J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 3/8] nfsd: minor nfsd4_change_attribute cleanup J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-21  0:34                                                           ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 4/8] nfsd4: don't query change attribute in v2/v3 case J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 5/8] nfs: use change attribute for NFS re-exports J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 6/8] nfsd: move change attribute generation to filesystem J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-21  0:58                                                           ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-21  1:01                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-21 13:00                                                           ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 7/8] nfsd: skip some unnecessary stats in the v4 case J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:39                                                         ` [PATCH 8/8] Revert "nfsd4: support change_attr_type attribute" J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-20 22:44                                                       ` [PATCH 2/4] nfsd: pre/post attr is using wrong change attribute J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-21  1:03                                                         ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-21 21:44                                                           ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-22  0:02                                                             ` bfields
2020-11-22  1:55                                                               ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-22  3:03                                                                 ` bfields
2020-11-23 20:07                                                                   ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-17 15:25                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17  3:18                                             ` [PATCH 3/4] nfs: don't mangle i_version on NFS J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17 12:27                                               ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-17 14:14                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17  3:18                                             ` [PATCH 4/4] nfs: support i_version in the NFSv4 case J. Bruce Fields
2020-11-17 12:34                                               ` Jeff Layton
2020-11-24 20:35               ` Adventures in NFS re-exporting Daire Byrne
2020-11-24 21:15                 ` bfields
2020-11-24 22:15                   ` Frank Filz
2020-11-25 14:47                     ` 'bfields'
2020-11-25 16:25                       ` Frank Filz
2020-11-25 19:03                         ` 'bfields'
2020-11-26  0:04                           ` Frank Filz
2020-11-25 17:14                   ` Daire Byrne
2020-11-25 19:31                     ` bfields
2020-12-03 12:20                     ` Daire Byrne
2020-12-03 18:51                       ` bfields
2020-12-03 20:27                         ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-03 21:13                           ` bfields
2020-12-03 21:32                             ` Frank Filz
2020-12-03 21:34                             ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-03 21:45                               ` Frank Filz
2020-12-03 21:57                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-03 22:04                                   ` bfields
2020-12-03 22:14                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-03 22:39                                       ` Frank Filz
2020-12-03 22:50                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-03 23:34                                           ` Frank Filz
2020-12-03 22:44                                       ` bfields
2020-12-03 21:54                               ` bfields
2020-12-03 22:45                               ` bfields
2020-12-03 22:53                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-03 23:16                                   ` bfields
2020-12-03 23:28                                     ` Frank Filz
2020-12-04  1:02                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2020-12-04  1:41                                       ` bfields
2020-12-04  2:27                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2020-09-17 16:01   ` Daire Byrne
2020-09-17 19:09     ` bfields
2020-09-17 20:23       ` Frank van der Linden
2020-09-17 21:57         ` bfields
2020-09-19 11:08           ` Daire Byrne
2020-09-22 16:43         ` Chuck Lever
2020-09-23 20:25           ` Daire Byrne
2020-09-23 21:01             ` Frank van der Linden
2020-09-26  9:00               ` Daire Byrne
2020-09-28 15:49                 ` Frank van der Linden
2020-09-28 16:08                   ` Chuck Lever
2020-09-28 17:42                     ` Frank van der Linden
2020-09-22 12:31 ` Daire Byrne
2020-09-22 13:52   ` Trond Myklebust
2020-09-23 12:40     ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-09-23 13:09       ` Trond Myklebust
2020-09-23 17:07         ` bfields
2020-09-30 19:30   ` [Linux-cachefs] " Jeff Layton
2020-10-01  0:09     ` Daire Byrne
2020-10-01 10:36       ` Jeff Layton
2020-10-01 12:38         ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-01 16:39           ` Jeff Layton
2020-10-05 12:54         ` Daire Byrne
2020-10-13  9:59           ` Daire Byrne
2020-10-01 18:41     ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-10-01 19:24       ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-01 19:26         ` bfields
2020-10-01 19:29           ` Trond Myklebust
2020-10-01 19:51             ` bfields

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