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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>
Cc: Murphy Zhou <jencce.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFSv4: fix stateid refreshing when CLOSE racing with OPEN
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 10:14:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BE205FBB-E5BC-40B2-8F3D-B7B6A7EBEB53@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B6AA10F3-072D-4BFD-9D96-275EC1A9D990@redhat.com>



> On Sep 4, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 3 Sep 2020, at 23:04, Murphy Zhou wrote:
> 
>> Hi Benjamin,
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 01:54:26PM -0400, Benjamin Coddington wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 11 Oct 2019, at 10:14, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2019-10-11 at 16:49 +0800, Murphy Zhou wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 02:46:40PM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 15:40 +0800, Murphy Zhou wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>>> @@ -3367,14 +3368,16 @@ static bool
>>>>>>> nfs4_refresh_open_old_stateid(nfs4_stateid *dst,
>>>>>>> 			break;
>>>>>>> 		}
>>>>>>> 		seqid_open = state->open_stateid.seqid;
>>>>>>> -		if (read_seqretry(&state->seqlock, seq))
>>>>>>> -			continue;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 		dst_seqid = be32_to_cpu(dst->seqid);
>>>>>>> -		if ((s32)(dst_seqid - be32_to_cpu(seqid_open)) >= 0)
>>>>>>> +		if ((s32)(dst_seqid - be32_to_cpu(seqid_open)) > 0)
>>>>>>> 			dst->seqid = cpu_to_be32(dst_seqid + 1);
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This negates the whole intention of the patch you reference in the
>>>>>> 'Fixes:', which was to allow us to CLOSE files even if seqid bumps
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> been lost due to interrupted RPC calls e.g. when using 'soft' or
>>>>>> 'softerr' mounts.
>>>>>> With the above change, the check could just be tossed out
>>>>>> altogether,
>>>>>> because dst_seqid will never become larger than seqid_open.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm.. I got it wrong. Thanks for the explanation.
>>>> 
>>>> So to be clear: I'm not saying that what you describe is not a problem.
>>>> I'm just saying that the fix you propose is really no better than
>>>> reverting the entire patch. I'd prefer not to do that, and would rather
>>>> see us look for ways to fix both problems, but if we can't find such as
>>>> fix then that would be the better solution.
>>> 
>>> Hi Trond and Murphy Zhou,
>>> 
>>> Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I'm wondering if any progress was
>>> made on this front.
>> 
>> This failure stoped showing up since v5.6-rc1 release cycle
>> in my records. Can you reproduce this on latest upstream kernel?
> 
> I'm seeing it on generic/168 on a v5.8 client against a v5.3 knfsd server.
> When I test against v5.8 server, the test takes longer to complete and I
> have yet to reproduce the livelock.
> 
> - on v5.3 server takes ~50 iterations to produce, each test completes in ~40
> seconds
> - on v5.8 server my test has run ~750 iterations without getting into
> the lock, each test takes ~60 seconds.
> 
> I suspect recent changes to the server have changed the timing of open
> replies such that the problem isn't reproduced on the client.

The Linux NFS server in v5.4 does behave differently than earlier
kernels with NFSv4.0, and it is performance-related. The filecache
went into v5.4, and that seems to change the frequency at which
the server offers delegations.

I'm looking into it, and learning a bunch.


--
Chuck Lever




  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-04 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-10  7:40 [PATCH] NFSv4: fix stateid refreshing when CLOSE racing with OPEN Murphy Zhou
2019-10-10 14:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2019-10-11  8:49   ` Murphy Zhou
2019-10-11 14:14     ` Trond Myklebust
2020-09-03 17:54       ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-09-04  3:04         ` Murphy Zhou
2020-09-04 10:55           ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-09-04 14:14             ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2020-09-08 12:43               ` Benjamin Coddington
2020-09-04 16:13         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-10-10 17:32 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-10-11  9:42   ` Murphy Zhou
2019-10-11 14:18   ` Trond Myklebust
2019-10-11 18:50     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-10-19  0:34       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2019-10-21 17:15         ` Olga Kornievskaia

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