From: Rick Macklem <rmacklem@uoguelph.ca>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "crispyduck@outlook.at" <crispyduck@outlook.at>,
Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 20:36:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YT2PR01MB9730508253381560F79E96C1DDF99@YT2PR01MB9730.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220424150725.GA31051@fieldses.org>
J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:03:17PM +0000, Rick Macklem wrote:
> > J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > > Actually (sorry I'm slow to understand this)--why would our 4.1 server
> > > ever be returning STALE on a close? We normally hold a reference to the
> > > file.
> > Well, OPEN_RESULT_PRESERVE_UNLINKED is not set in the Open reply,
> > so even if it normally does so, it is not telling the ESXi client that it
> > will retain it.
>
> Yeah, we don't guarantee it, but I thought in this cases we did. The
> object we use to represent the open stateid (indirectly) holds a
> reference on the inode that prevents it from being removed, so the
> filehandle lookup should still work. If I had the time, I'd write an
> open-rename over-close test in pynfs and see if we could reproduce this,
> and if so see what's happening.
Then I guess the next question would be...
What happens to the file/open when the close never happens?
Could that be causing problems for the client, since we know the Close
never happens?
> > > Oh, wait, is subtree_check set on the export? You don't want to do
> > > that. (The freebsd server probably doesn't even give that as an
> > > option?)
> > Nope, Never heard of it.
>
> It adds a reference to the parent into the filehandle, so we can foil
> filehandle-guessing attacks on exports of subdirectories of filesystems.
> With the major drawback that it breaks on cross-directory rename, for
> example. So it's not the default.
In FreeBSD, it actually hangs onto the parent's FH (verbatim), but mostly
so it can do Open/Claim_NULLs for it. There is nothing in FreeBSD that
tries to subvert FH guessing.
rick
--b.
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2022-04-21 4:55 ` Problems with NFS4.1 on ESXi Andreas Nagy
2022-04-21 14:58 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-21 15:30 ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-21 16:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <AM9P191MB16654F5B7541CD1E489D75608EF49@AM9P191MB1665.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2022-04-21 18:41 ` crispyduck
2022-04-21 18:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-04-21 23:52 ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-21 23:58 ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-22 14:29 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-22 14:59 ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-22 15:02 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-22 22:58 ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-22 15:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-04-22 18:43 ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-22 23:03 ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-24 15:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2022-04-24 20:36 ` Rick Macklem [this message]
2022-04-24 20:39 ` Rick Macklem
2022-04-25 9:00 ` AW: " crispyduck
2022-04-27 6:08 ` crispyduck
2022-05-05 5:31 ` andreas-nagy
2022-05-05 14:19 ` Rick Macklem
2022-05-05 16:38 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-05-07 1:53 ` Chuck Lever III
2022-04-22 14:23 ` Olga Kornievskaia
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