From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17266C433DB for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ml01.01.org (ml01.01.org [198.145.21.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6F122339D for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:47 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org B6F122339D Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=ACULAB.COM Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-nvdimm-bounces@lists.01.org Received: from ml01.vlan13.01.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59537100EB844; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=185.58.86.151; helo=eu-smtp-delivery-151.mimecast.com; envelope-from=david.laight@aculab.com; receiver= Received: from eu-smtp-delivery-151.mimecast.com (eu-smtp-delivery-151.mimecast.com [185.58.86.151]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8562F100EB83F for ; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 07:44:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from AcuMS.aculab.com (156.67.243.126 [156.67.243.126]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id uk-mta-29-eILD036iMCOERidD8eAmqg-1; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:40 +0000 X-MC-Unique: eILD036iMCOERidD8eAmqg-1 Received: from AcuMS.Aculab.com (fd9f:af1c:a25b:0:43c:695e:880f:8750) by AcuMS.aculab.com (fd9f:af1c:a25b:0:43c:695e:880f:8750) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1347.2; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:38 +0000 Received: from AcuMS.Aculab.com ([fe80::43c:695e:880f:8750]) by AcuMS.aculab.com ([fe80::43c:695e:880f:8750%12]) with mapi id 15.00.1347.000; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:38 +0000 From: David Laight To: 'Mikulas Patocka' , Jan Kara Subject: RE: Expense of read_iter Thread-Topic: Expense of read_iter Thread-Index: AQHW7z6gIbHKRyPAmU2nz0K77h3r46owpQfA Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:38 +0000 Message-ID: <08ea15c321bb42c2b2c941c8c741b268@AcuMS.aculab.com> References: <20210107151125.GB5270@casper.infradead.org> <17045315-CC1F-4165-B8E3-BA55DD16D46B@gmail.com> <2041983017.5681521.1610459100858.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn> <1224425872.715547.1610703643424.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn> <20210120044700.GA4626@dread.disaster.area> <20210120141834.GA24063@quack2.suse.cz> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.202.205.107] MIME-Version: 1.0 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=C51A453 smtp.mailfrom=david.laight@aculab.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: aculab.com Content-Language: en-US Message-ID-Hash: ISPF54P3LNELLJB5IYZTBVXTET26AMYG X-Message-ID-Hash: ISPF54P3LNELLJB5IYZTBVXTET26AMYG X-MailFrom: david.laight@aculab.com X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: nonmember-moderation X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation CC: Dave Chinner , Zhongwei Cai , Theodore Ts'o , Matthew Wilcox , "Mingkai Dong , Andrew Morton , Steven Whitehouse" , Eric Sandeen , Dave Chinner , Wang Jianchao , Rajesh Tadakamadla , linux-kernel , linux-fsdevel , linux-nvdimm X-Mailman-Version: 3.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Linux-nvdimm developer list." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mikulas Patocka > Sent: 20 January 2021 15:12 > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2021, Jan Kara wrote: > > > Yeah, I agree. I'm against ext4 private solution for this read problem. And > > I'm also against duplicating ->read_iter functionatily in ->read handler. > > The maintenance burden of this code duplication is IMHO just too big. We > > rather need to improve the generic code so that the fast path is faster. > > And every filesystem will benefit because this is not ext4 specific > > problem. > > > > Honza > > Do you have some idea how to optimize the generic code that calls > ->read_iter? > > vfs_read calls ->read if it is present. If not, it calls new_sync_read. > new_sync_read's frame size is 128 bytes - it holds the structures iovec, > kiocb and iov_iter. new_sync_read calls ->read_iter. > > I have found out that the cost of calling new_sync_read is 3.3%, Zhongwei > found out 3.9%. (the benchmark repeatedy reads the same 4k page) > > I don't see any way how to optimize new_sync_read or how to reduce its > frame size. Do you? Why is the 'read_iter' path not just the same as the 'read' one but calling copy_to_iter() instead of copy_to_user(). For a single fragment iov[] the difference might just be measurable for a single byte read. But by the time you are transferring 4k it ought to be miniscule. It isn't as though you have the cost of reading the iov[] from userspace. (That hits sendmsg() v send().) David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales) _______________________________________________ Linux-nvdimm mailing list -- linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-nvdimm-leave@lists.01.org