From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B6FC35647 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ml01.01.org (ml01.01.org [198.145.21.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CEB7207FD for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:21:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=fujitsu.onmicrosoft.com header.i=@fujitsu.onmicrosoft.com header.b="PCWFzLKd" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 0CEB7207FD Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=fujitsu.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-nvdimm-bounces@lists.01.org Received: from ml01.vlan13.01.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FBB10FC3629; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 02:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=68.232.159.247; helo=esa10.fujitsucc.c3s2.iphmx.com; envelope-from=qi.fuli@fujitsu.com; receiver= Received: from esa10.fujitsucc.c3s2.iphmx.com (esa10.fujitsucc.c3s2.iphmx.com [68.232.159.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA7E710FC3621 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 02:22:35 -0800 (PST) IronPort-SDR: PJRqTS5vDMxpGRC1FP1Nf/0viH6tU/x4E8E24pUfxQqMl8d7iUjg1Sy0T0B1ueP1iWNf51n6p+ Q7F32Ktp8lAtMk1jp73HA5AG2GlJdrs8jx5x3+txY+RNkxQ9ZCyYSLSyAckAByhCisSnFwY03W qa91eMOkLLsiRcePQzqfiCRM65dKcjK3sMFBL8gIgNDBejEuCOfBaylSC1GDIlGoCz0Ekn4vHO 4Hz508QaQsAHLLPokSyW8/h5lqOfJxuO4goF0LXwJuhiv4D6P4sqVJarlAXlrbfdQ8W6yNcduY sLg= X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6000,8403,9537"; a="10552295" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.70,467,1574089200"; d="scan'208";a="10552295" Received: from mail-ty1jpn01lp2055.outbound.protection.outlook.com (HELO JPN01-TY1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) ([104.47.93.55]) by ob1.fujitsucc.c3s2.iphmx.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 21 Feb 2020 19:21:40 +0900 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=YHpjjl6u/u2Woox9UguDCQp/OwSNKnXwpcGMo3cKma164scQxCXqgKvkNVznQ3QPP+MJSf8PR1fibXOACTzER1qHp+czWLRu7NentqVF7S3UZKgxG+rILBgAGwut+H/5LxYf9mP72UcDXNiuI9cRXmwxZHeZ4NGsBa9WOhZ/VjzpfuWoac904MPmXLi3F3zPMM45/0li4+ZoHJZhhqX/9uSba0AC1wGb2a4nYopWpRjrqLc6x6syLgO7DL7ZV5JOGJX5DRGshzMH2BgQrh1rBmzYVE1SfXIFJGj11reAUBdZxM/gDv4GiwTVGSTdIDQ1tQ8FhVFSZ6RY1llHRij73g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=c4Ma0HzHRFsAXrbqofA8PaJZBRL2tkN60l/bpwJXmqQ=; b=lw9IP7qfEhqSHh9K1w4d+XP6zLQdtHd12w7GH0vki1oSNSGwZy4lwaTBEknVdaFdDwCNNZuuPidVPjBY/JmvplgqQvxYINShOg+1dYkita8VZh5wfDhRirDVX6iUTeG2BuoDv5Duujg1gY98dTUMM79pgLsbT3SoSttg3x0W7xJohFWVC4yr4luePahoVEln5/Iychug0/TinMqbuTdvuMQ5EuNq0ZpLgyQw26M1xSBm64iqbuy3Q6ZoKoZm8xZy9823xhs/iEnsGGVLSSvlo6mk59YEcw7D4kxHC560D11BMFUQ5ezUM62jBU0QK4q8JS0h5Mh9LvyNcqG5NhqbBQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=fujitsu.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=fujitsu.com; dkim=pass header.d=fujitsu.com; arc=none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fujitsu.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-fujitsu-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=c4Ma0HzHRFsAXrbqofA8PaJZBRL2tkN60l/bpwJXmqQ=; b=PCWFzLKd22KzjKQj9itjXKs0kX/1EH2Ya+lerkYyqiB6uZ5t/JEHAmCxMDfhmI/R2ciicrCVT6chLwQViqXybilrYn+BZX5/bhItt/On8AGOdd9hAGudNFlmJj3tNpfFu7D1PLgQvIVHUfU1+BrVKKPOHzv04MPlxVXfgAVzPGM= Received: from OSBPR01MB3653.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com (20.178.97.18) by OSBSPR01MB0015.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com (20.178.5.140) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2750.21; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:21:38 +0000 Received: from OSBPR01MB3653.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::a063:b84c:9d97:44ad]) by OSBPR01MB3653.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::a063:b84c:9d97:44ad%5]) with mapi id 15.20.2750.016; Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:21:38 +0000 From: "qi.fuli@fujitsu.com" To: "Verma, Vishal L" , "Williams, Dan J" Subject: Re: [ndctl PATCH] ndctl/list: Drop named list objects from verbose listing Thread-Topic: [ndctl PATCH] ndctl/list: Drop named list objects from verbose listing Thread-Index: AQHVpL2ZHqoUlCPxu0a5lVQlwFkJY6gjUl9tgAABZYCAAAMq5oAAC2SAgAATDICAAAIAgIAABU+AgAJ7PYA= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:21:38 +0000 Message-ID: <149112cd-0ae4-02b8-84ba-f13cce5aa45d@jp.fujitsu.com> References: <157481532698.2805671.8095763752180655226.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <03b5da834f0be8bc7110c459f3172732b96e85fa.camel@intel.com> <00abe72085e75c1c54b87635c81352b628211707.camel@intel.com> In-Reply-To: <00abe72085e75c1c54b87635c81352b628211707.camel@intel.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=qi.fuli@fujitsu.com; x-originating-ip: [180.43.167.181] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 2cf60f33-bacf-4ac4-fde9-08d7b6b7d642 x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: OSBSPR01MB0015: x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:9508; x-forefront-prvs: 0320B28BE1 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10009020)(4636009)(136003)(396003)(376002)(346002)(366004)(39860400002)(199004)(189003)(6506007)(53546011)(6486002)(26005)(6512007)(186003)(31696002)(66446008)(64756008)(66556008)(66476007)(66946007)(86362001)(76116006)(85182001)(110136005)(5660300002)(316002)(2906002)(81156014)(81166006)(8676002)(478600001)(8936002)(4326008)(31686004)(71200400001)(777600001);DIR:OUT;SFP:1101;SCL:1;SRVR:OSBSPR01MB0015;H:OSBPR01MB3653.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;LANG:en;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1; x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: p6X3i2yoAImXnV43QwkKWwchDs/jDh8yZYskZkyge932DJLdh0+U8kCU5E+zKK/Okk1gpMU0YDFnwqzKJWWL+x1qaRHGq+RluLg8pAfFBXtWSp4f9b45FovDSoNGiXuHh7JTZFxFD+9tYjBOBqU9NRTMynzZByeZ4B/hOkjmcuraBibpRD3blsz/fyMJV5llY1Uovxqa+2Ut/hrOW+HMfTusghH0fN66AGaTd7yLVzzzm/fqMsCR6FVjXso30tOeD3E9EOQWGvRoCBpGZRrRY09Q8B2ua9VHjNWCrpO16PWpzYcOUp9KAmaBO2W7xfG6LOrlrpzB9kaxulhxXgp+PM/VKO5jU26QpjE4+f88GBOqD8bGNQ5d8gy1Z6zWg8DFh+ToY6DPs6aQkONKC3JrWEht00jNCFz+eVzwGX66NP1RZ+VE1kwIS8TPRbJL5vC/e4vKI1mYpnTGf1+EUhQW9/Tyn7qFMNPlFTX+6x4uVPk6sW/nC6brMq/n4G/241bs x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata: vC3UrB6rlwREMCLG1DMMKkyUEIiB6bGXuVMyO3aZMLfqBiAxdseR/JDmru4ub9rHQLWogptXIqz32d1ueiwuKLY4spGkMrj0g7fFvvlaaFh8OIv+4TGy7etA54930V2nl9372Yk5N88uOJixC6EpnA== x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True Content-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: fujitsu.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 2cf60f33-bacf-4ac4-fde9-08d7b6b7d642 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 21 Feb 2020 10:21:38.5779 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: a19f121d-81e1-4858-a9d8-736e267fd4c7 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: AZ6pfNYDOgUmcA1rTWzKs6sN46HZeDIqzXUmp4ddFNijHhtbkZ+kueS5UKEIQZvq0dJcfwY8ZOi5KbdEwGHIrA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: OSBSPR01MB0015 Message-ID-Hash: XW33Q7BHEJ455AUKWLTICPJBUDYZYPM3 X-Message-ID-Hash: XW33Q7BHEJ455AUKWLTICPJBUDYZYPM3 X-MailFrom: qi.fuli@fujitsu.com X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: nonmember-moderation X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation CC: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Linux-nvdimm developer list." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/20/20 5:28 AM, Verma, Vishal L wrote: > On Wed, 2020-02-19 at 12:09 -0800, Dan Williams wrote: >>>> >>>> Let's do a compromise, because users also hate nonsensical legacy that >>>> they can't avoid. How about an environment variable, >>>> "NDCTL_LIST_LINT", that users can set to opt into the latest / >>>> cleanest output format with the understanding that the clean up may >>>> regress scripts that were dependent on the old bugs. >>>> >>> Hm, this sounds good in concept, but how about waiting for this cleanup >>> to go in after the (yes, long pending) config rework. Then this can just >>> be a global config setting, and we won't have config things coming from >>> the environment as well (which this would be a first of). >> >> That does make some sense, but I notice that git deals with "cosmetic" >> environment variables (GIT_EDITOR, GIT_PAGER, etc) in addition to its >> config file. So if we're borrowing from git, I'd also borrow that >> config vs environment logic. > > True, that's reasonable. I guess I was hoping to avoid, if we can, > suddenly having a multitude of config sources, but env variables are > pretty standard and it should be fine to add them. Hi, I am sorry for suspending the ndctl global config patch for such a long time. If it is not urgent, I would like to implement it. Thank you. QI fuli > _______________________________________________ > Linux-nvdimm mailing list -- linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org > To unsubscribe send an email to linux-nvdimm-leave@lists.01.org > _______________________________________________ Linux-nvdimm mailing list -- linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-nvdimm-leave@lists.01.org