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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Patrick Ohly <patrick.ohly@intel.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, virtio-fs@redhat.com,
	miklos@szeredi.hu, stefanha@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/20] virtiofs: Add DAX support
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 09:02:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200316130234.GA4013@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yrjh1rpzggg4.fsf@pohly-mobl1.fritz.box>

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 02:38:03PM +0100, Patrick Ohly wrote:
> Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> writes:
> > This patch series adds DAX support to virtiofs filesystem. This allows
> > bypassing guest page cache and allows mapping host page cache directly
> > in guest address space.
> >
> > When a page of file is needed, guest sends a request to map that page
> > (in host page cache) in qemu address space. Inside guest this is
> > a physical memory range controlled by virtiofs device. And guest
> > directly maps this physical address range using DAX and hence gets
> > access to file data on host.
> >
> > This can speed up things considerably in many situations. Also this
> > can result in substantial memory savings as file data does not have
> > to be copied in guest and it is directly accessed from host page
> > cache.
> 
> As a potential user of this, let me make sure I understand the expected
> outcome: is the goal to let virtiofs use DAX (for increased performance,
> etc.) or also let applications that use virtiofs use DAX?
> 
> You are mentioning using the host's page cache, so it's probably the
> former and MAP_SYNC on virtiofs will continue to be rejected, right?

Hi Patrick,

You are right. Its the former. That is we want virtiofs to be able to
make use of DAX to bypass guest page cache. But there is no persistent
memory so no persistent memory programming semantics available to user
space. For that I guess we have virtio-pmem.

We expect users will issue fsync/msync like a regular filesystem to
make changes persistent. So in that aspect, rejecting MAP_SYNC
makes sense. I will test and see if current code is rejecting MAP_SYNC
or not.

Thanks
Vivek
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 16:58 [PATCH 00/20] virtiofs: Add DAX support Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 01/20] dax: Modify bdev_dax_pgoff() to handle NULL bdev Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 02/20] dax: Create a range version of dax_layout_busy_page() Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 15:19   ` Ira Weiny
2020-03-10 20:29     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 03/20] virtio: Add get_shm_region method Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 10:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 04/20] virtio: Implement get_shm_region for PCI transport Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 11:04   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-10 18:19     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11 17:34       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-11 19:29         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 11:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-10 18:47     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 21:27       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 05/20] virtio: Implement get_shm_region for MMIO transport Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 11:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 06/20] virtiofs: Provide a helper function for virtqueue initialization Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 14:10   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 07/20] fuse: Get rid of no_mount_options Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 14:12   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 08/20] fuse,virtiofs: Add a mount option to enable dax Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 14:16   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 09/20] virtio_fs, dax: Set up virtio_fs dax_device Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 10/20] fuse,virtiofs: Keep a list of free dax memory ranges Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 19:29   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 11/20] fuse: implement FUSE_INIT map_alignment field Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 19:31   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 12/20] fuse: Introduce setupmapping/removemapping commands Vivek Goyal
2020-03-10 19:49   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-10 20:33     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11  7:03       ` Amir Goldstein
2020-03-11 14:19         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-11 14:41           ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11 15:12             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 13/20] fuse, dax: Implement dax read/write operations Vivek Goyal
2020-03-12  9:43   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-12 16:02     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-13 10:18       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-13 13:41         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-04  0:25   ` Liu Bo
2020-04-14 12:54     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 14/20] fuse,dax: add DAX mmap support Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 15/20] fuse, dax: Take ->i_mmap_sem lock during dax page fault Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 16/20] fuse,virtiofs: Define dax address space operations Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 17/20] fuse,virtiofs: Maintain a list of busy elements Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 18/20] fuse: Release file in process context Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 19/20] fuse: Take inode lock for dax inode truncation Vivek Goyal
2020-03-04 16:58 ` [PATCH 20/20] fuse,virtiofs: Add logic to free up a memory range Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11  5:16   ` Liu Bo
2020-03-11 12:59     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11 17:24       ` Liu Bo
2020-03-26  0:09   ` Liu Bo
2020-03-27 14:01     ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-27 22:06       ` Liu Bo
2020-04-14 19:30         ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-15 17:22           ` Liu Bo
2020-04-16 19:05             ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-17 18:05               ` Liu Bo
2020-03-11  5:22 ` [PATCH 00/20] virtiofs: Add DAX support Amir Goldstein
2020-03-11 13:09   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11 18:48   ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11 19:32     ` Amir Goldstein
2020-03-11 19:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2020-03-11 13:38 ` Patrick Ohly
2020-03-16 13:02   ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2020-03-17  8:28     ` Patrick Ohly

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