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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Wang Jianchao <jianchao.wan9@gmail.com>,
	"Tadakamadla, Rajesh" <rajesh.tadakamadla@hpe.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: Expense of read_iter
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 00:18:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210111001805.GD35215@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.2101101458420.7366@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 04:19:15PM -0500, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> I put counters into vfs_read and vfs_readv.
> 
> After a fresh boot of the virtual machine, the counters show "13385 4". 
> After a kernel compilation they show "4475220 8".
> 
> So, the readv path is almost unused.
> 
> My reasoning was that we should optimize for the "read" path and glue the 
> "readv" path on the top of that. Currently, the kernel is doing the 
> opposite - optimizing for "readv" and glueing "read" on the top of it.

But it's not about optimising for read vs readv.  read_iter handles
a host of other cases, such as pread(), preadv(), AIO reads, splice,
and reads to in-kernel buffers.

Some device drivers abused read() vs readv() to actually return different
information, depending which you called.  That's why there's now a
prohibition against both.

So let's figure out how to make iter_read() perform well for sys_read().
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-11  0:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-07 13:15 [RFC v2] nvfs: a filesystem for persistent memory Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-07 15:11 ` Expense of read_iter Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-07 16:43   ` Mingkai Dong
     [not found]     ` <2041983017.5681521.1610459100858.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn>
2021-01-12 14:06       ` David Laight
2021-01-13 16:44       ` Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]         ` <1224425872.715547.1610703643424.JavaMail.zimbra@sjtu.edu.cn>
2021-01-20  4:47           ` Dave Chinner
2021-01-20 14:18             ` Jan Kara
2021-01-20 15:12               ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-20 15:44                 ` David Laight
2021-01-21 15:47                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-21 16:06                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-07 18:59   ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-10  6:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-01-10 21:19       ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11  0:18         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-01-11 21:10           ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 10:11       ` David Laight
2021-01-10 16:20 ` [RFC v2] nvfs: a filesystem for persistent memory Al Viro
2021-01-10 16:51   ` Al Viro
2021-01-10 21:14   ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-10 23:40     ` Al Viro
2021-01-11 11:41       ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 10:29   ` David Laight
2021-01-11 11:44     ` Mikulas Patocka
2021-01-11 11:57       ` David Laight
2021-01-11 14:43         ` Al Viro
2021-01-11 14:54           ` David Laight

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