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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com" <ruansy.fnst@fujitsu.com>,
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	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	david <david@fromorbit.com>, Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>,
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	"y-goto@fujitsu.com" <y-goto@fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] pagemap: Introduce ->memory_failure()
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:39:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210324173935.GB12770@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hOrYCW=wjkxkCP+JbyD+A_Po0rW-61qQWAOm3zp_eyUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 09:37:01AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > Eww.  As I said I think the right way is that the file system (or
> > other consumer) can register a set of callbacks for opening the device.
> 
> How does that solve the problem of the driver being notified of all
> pfn failure events?

Ok, I probably just showed I need to spend more time looking at
your proposal vs the actual code..

Don't we have a proper way how one of the nvdimm layers own a
spefific memory range and call directly into that instead of through
a notifier?

> Today pmem only finds out about the ones that are
> notified via native x86 machine check error handling via a notifier
> (yes "firmware-first" error handling fails to do the right thing for
> the pmem driver),

Did any kind of firmware-first error handling ever get anything
right?  I wish people would have learned that by now.

> or the ones that are eventually reported via address
> range scrub, but only for the nvdimms that implement range scrubbing.
> memory_failure() seems a reasonable catch all point to route pfn
> failure events, in an arch independent way, to interested drivers.

Yeah.

> I'm fine swapping out dax_device blocking_notiier chains for your
> proposal, but that does not address all the proposed reworks in my
> list which are:
> 
> - delete "drivers/acpi/nfit/mce.c"
> 
> - teach memory_failure() to be able to communicate range failure
> 
> - enable memory_failure() to defer to a filesystem that can say
> "critical metadata is impacted, no point in trying to do file-by-file
> isolation, bring the whole fs down".

This all sounds sensible.
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-24 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-08 10:55 [PATCH v3 00/11] fsdax: introduce fs query to support reflink Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] pagemap: Introduce ->memory_failure() Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-10 13:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-06 20:36   ` Dan Williams
2021-03-08  3:38     ` ruansy.fnst
2021-03-08  5:23       ` Dan Williams
2021-03-08 11:34         ` ruansy.fnst
2021-03-08 18:01           ` Dan Williams
2021-03-12 10:18             ` ruansy.fnst
2021-03-19  2:17               ` ruansy.fnst
2021-03-24  2:19                 ` Dan Williams
2021-03-24  7:47                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-24 16:37                     ` Dan Williams
2021-03-24 17:39                       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-03-24 18:00                         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] blk: Introduce ->corrupted_range() for block device Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-10 13:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-04 22:42     ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-05  6:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] fs: Introduce ->corrupted_range() for superblock Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] block_dev: Introduce bd_corrupted_range() for block device Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] mm, fsdax: Refactor memory-failure handler for dax mapping Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-10 13:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-17  2:56     ` Ruan Shiyang
2021-02-18  8:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18  8:59         ` Ruan Shiyang
2021-03-16  3:21   ` zhong jiang
2021-03-17  3:46     ` ruansy.fnst
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] mm, pmem: Implement ->memory_failure() in pmem driver Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-10 13:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] pmem: Implement ->corrupted_range() for " Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] dm: Introduce ->rmap() to find bdev offset Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] md: Implement ->corrupted_range() Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] xfs: Implement ->corrupted_range() for XFS Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-10 13:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-08 10:55 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] fs/dax: Remove useless functions Shiyang Ruan
2021-02-10 13:09   ` Christoph Hellwig

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