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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.22 Message-ID-Hash: 5QWZKJ43WQHOQP7HB7KHRBNWAYPVWLIE X-Message-ID-Hash: 5QWZKJ43WQHOQP7HB7KHRBNWAYPVWLIE X-MailFrom: david@redhat.com X-Mailman-Rule-Hits: nonmember-moderation X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation CC: Andrew Morton , Ard Biesheuvel , Mike Rapoport , Borislav Petkov , David Airlie , Will Deacon , Catalin Marinas , Ard Biesheuvel , Joao Martins , Tom Lendacky , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Jonathan Cameron , X86 ML , "H. Peter Anvin" , Thomas Gleixner , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Pavel Tatashin , Peter Zijlstra , Ben Skeggs , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Jason Gunthorpe , Jia He , Ingo Molnar , Dave Hansen , Paul Mackerras , Brice Goglin , Michael Ellerman , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Daniel Vetter , Andy Lutomirski , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux MM , linux-nvdimm , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux ACPI , Maling list - DRI developers X-Mailman-Version: 3.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Linux-nvdimm developer list." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 21.08.20 20:27, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 3:15 AM David Hildenbrand wrote: >> >>>> >>>> 1. On x86-64, e820 indicates "soft-reserved" memory. This memory is not >>>> automatically used in the buddy during boot, but remains untouched >>>> (similar to pmem). But as it involves ACPI as well, it could also be >>>> used on arm64 (-e820), correct? >>> >>> Correct, arm64 also gets the EFI support for enumerating memory this >>> way. However, I would clarify that whether soft-reserved is given to >>> the buddy allocator by default or not is the kernel's policy choice, >>> "buddy-by-default" is ok and is what will happen anyways with older >>> kernels on platforms that enumerate a memory range this way. >> >> Is "soft-reserved" then the right terminology for that? It sounds very >> x86-64/e820 specific. Maybe a compressed for of "performance >> differentiated memory" might be a better fit to expose to user space, no? > > No. The EFI "Specific Purpose" bit is an attribute independent of > e820, it's x86-Linux that entangles those together. There is no > requirement for platform firmware to use that designation even for > drastic performance differentiation between ranges, and conversely > there is no requirement that memory *with* that designation has any > performance difference compared to the default memory pool. So it > really is a reservation policy about a memory range to keep out of the > buddy allocator by default. Okay, still "soft-reserved" is x86-64 specific, no? (AFAIK, "soft-reserved" will be visible in /proc/iomem, or am I confusing stuff?) IOW, it "performance differentiated" is not universally applicable, maybe "specific purpose memory" is ? -- Thanks, David / dhildenb _______________________________________________ Linux-nvdimm mailing list -- linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-nvdimm-leave@lists.01.org