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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: Lease semantic proposal
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 06:07:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4jpLYUcqA6D_qfGF4FQCu-SuH67FHLcH0fCQTQ-D+hWzQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191001210156.GB5500@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:02 PM Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 06:42:33PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 04:46:03PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:26:20AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > Hence, AFIACT, the above definition of a F_RDLCK|F_LAYOUT lease
> > > > doesn't appear to be compatible with the semantics required by
> > > > existing users of layout leases.
> > >
> > > I disagree.  Other than the addition of F_UNBREAK, I think this is consistent
> > > with what is currently implemented.  Also, by exporting all this to user space
> > > we can now write tests for it independent of the RDMA pinning.
> >
> > The current usage of F_RDLCK | F_LAYOUT by the pNFS code allows
> > layout changes to occur to the file while the layout lease is held.
>
> This was not my understanding.

I think you guys are talking past each other. F_RDLCK | F_LAYOUT can
be broken to allow writes to the file / layout. The new unbreakable
case would require explicit SIGKILL as "revocation method of last
resort", but that's the new incremental extension being proposed. No
changes to the current behavior of F_RDLCK | F_LAYOUT.

Dave, the question at hand is whether this new layout lease mode being
proposed is going to respond to BREAK_WRITE, or just BREAK_UNMAP. It
seems longterm page pinning conflicts really only care about
BREAK_UNMAP where pages that were part of the file are being removed
from the file. The unbreakable case can tolerate layout changes that
keep pinned pages mapped / allocated to the file.
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-02 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-23 19:08 Lease semantic proposal Ira Weiny
2019-09-23 20:17 ` Jeff Layton
2019-10-01 18:17   ` Ira Weiny
2019-10-02 12:28     ` Jeff Layton
2019-10-02 19:27       ` J. Bruce Fields
2019-10-02 20:35         ` Jeff Layton
2019-10-03  8:43           ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 15:37           ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-01-21  0:56             ` Steve French
2019-10-03  9:01     ` Jan Kara
2019-10-03 17:05       ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-23 22:26 ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-25 23:46   ` Ira Weiny
2019-09-26 11:29     ` Jeff Layton
2019-09-30  8:42     ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-01 21:01       ` Ira Weiny
2019-10-02 13:07         ` Dan Williams [this message]
2019-10-10 10:39         ` Dave Chinner
2019-10-04  7:51       ` Jan Kara

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