From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A65C34056 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ml01.01.org (ml01.01.org [198.145.21.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 996342465D for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=redhat.com header.i=@redhat.com header.b="NyYSqLCC" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 996342465D Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-nvdimm-bounces@lists.01.org Received: from ml01.vlan13.01.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FC410FC341C; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=207.211.31.81; helo=us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com; envelope-from=jmoyer@redhat.com; receiver= Received: from us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-1.mimecast.com [207.211.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ml01.01.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2916D10FC3411 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:11:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1582139451; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=XQmhr9Kh6qyrmW8oniB3vRQDzLQuXLnoe/4D8hSgJPE=; b=NyYSqLCCztevnaYbusUwCQ6BRYncwiGgdD+QEgNoyPiu/qgXq3qOD1csIIvZJ0yhSiPy3S 03c7e5kiCFuNl5TV3uWtlccNoVJ8q+4q+kt2bfdzQDKV2zW7g6ih//vsDzGNymIwgKl0Jr +oFRy/pXKmr8q50CqEmHTnFEUjA2IhI= Received: from mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (mimecast-mx01.redhat.com [209.132.183.4]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-51-iml3DmjrO4K7z9MBXtRYDQ-1; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:10:40 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx01.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03853100550E; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com (segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com [10.19.60.26]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A821290768; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 19:10:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Moyer To: Dan Williams Subject: Re: [ndctl PATCH] ndctl/list: Drop named list objects from verbose listing References: <157481532698.2805671.8095763752180655226.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> X-PGP-KeyID: 1F78E1B4 X-PGP-CertKey: F6FE 280D 8293 F72C 65FD 5A58 1FF8 A7CA 1F78 E1B4 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 14:10:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Dan Williams's message of "Wed, 19 Feb 2020 10:53:41 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.13 X-MC-Unique: iml3DmjrO4K7z9MBXtRYDQ-1 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Message-ID-Hash: OK4SOIXEM6AIWX5UXHPM267SDR5LMU2R X-Message-ID-Hash: OK4SOIXEM6AIWX5UXHPM267SDR5LMU2R X-MailFrom: jmoyer@redhat.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; suspicious-header CC: linux-nvdimm X-Mailman-Version: 3.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Linux-nvdimm developer list." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Williams writes: >> >> Will this break existing code that parses the javascript output? >> > >> > Always a potential for that. That said, I'd rather attempt to make it >> > symmetric and replace it if someone screams, rather than let this >> > quirk persist because it makes it impossible to ingest region data >> > with the same script across -R and -Rv. >> >> Yeah, I see where you're coming from. However, script authors will >> still have to deal with older versions of ndctl in the wild (for many >> years). If the decision was up to me, I'd live with the wart in favor >> of not breaking scripts when ndctl gets updated. Users hate that. > > Let's do a compromise, because users also hate nonsensical legacy that > they can't avoid. How about an environment variable, > "NDCTL_LIST_LINT", that users can set to opt into the latest / > cleanest output format with the understanding that the clean up may > regress scripts that were dependent on the old bugs. Deal. :) -Jeff _______________________________________________ Linux-nvdimm mailing list -- linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org To unsubscribe send an email to linux-nvdimm-leave@lists.01.org