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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 3/3] libnvdimm, MAINTAINERS: Maintainer Entry Profile
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 17:44:39 -0400
Message-ID: <yq1y2yrdg6w.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9132e214-9b57-07dc-7ee2-f6bc52e960c5@kernel.dk> (Jens Axboe's message of "Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:11:29 -0600")


Jens,

> Additionally, it would seem saner to standardize rules around when
> code is expected to hit the maintainers hands for kernel
> releases. Both yours and Martins deals with that, there really
> shouldn't be the need to have this specified in detail per sub-system.

Yeah. There is basically nothing specific about SCSI in my write-up
outside of the branch naming.

I deliberately didn't mention coding style preferences. We have so much
20+ year old cruft in SCSI that's impossible to even entertain. But I do
request new code to follow coding-style.rst. BYOXT.

Also note that the original target audience for my document. It was
aimed at onboarding new driver contributors from hardware companies. So
people that don't live and breathe Linux development and who are not
intimately familiar with the kernel development process. It's possible
that we have this information in Documentation/ these days; I'll go
look. But it didn't exist when this doc was written. And in my
experience nobody coming to Linux development from the outside
understands what the "merge window" is. And when the appropriate time is
to submit patches and features. I think this would be a great area to
have a common set of guidelines and documentation. I'd prefer for this
to be global and then let maintainers apply their own wiggle room
instead of documenting particular rules for a given subsystem.

One pet peeve I have is that people are pretty bad at indicating the
intended target tree. I often ask for it in private mail but the
practice doesn't seem to stick. I spend a ton of time guessing whether a
patch is a fix for a new feature in the x+1 queue or a fix for the
current release. It is not always obvious.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-11 15:48 [PATCH v2 0/3] Maintainer Entry Profiles Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] MAINTAINERS: Reclaim the P: tag for Maintainer Entry Profile Dan Williams
2019-09-13 15:37   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-11 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Maintainer Handbook: " Dan Williams
2019-09-11 17:34   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Verma, Vishal L
2019-09-16 12:35   ` Jani Nikula
2019-10-01 13:55   ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-10-01 18:17     ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-11-07 20:13     ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-11-08  2:41       ` Dan Williams
2019-09-11 15:48 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] libnvdimm, MAINTAINERS: " Dan Williams
2019-09-11 17:42   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Vishal Verma
2019-09-11 17:45   ` Dave Jiang
2019-09-11 18:43   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dan Carpenter
2019-09-11 22:11     ` Jens Axboe
2019-09-12  7:41       ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12  8:24         ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-12 10:18           ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 11:02             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 14:17               ` Dan Williams
2019-09-12 14:51                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 14:42             ` Miguel Ojeda
2019-09-13  7:09       ` Jonathan Corbet
2019-09-13 11:48         ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-13 12:18           ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 15:00           ` Randy Dunlap
2019-09-13 15:46             ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 16:42               ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 19:32                 ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 17:57             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-09-16 12:42           ` Jani Nikula
     [not found]           ` <20190917161608.GA12866@ziepe.ca>
2019-09-17 21:59             ` Dan Williams
2019-09-13 21:44       ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2019-09-16  7:01         ` Dan Carpenter
2019-09-16 17:08           ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-13  2:11     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2019-09-13  5:00       ` Greg KH
2019-09-11 20:30   ` Joe Perches
2019-09-11 16:40 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Maintainer Entry Profiles Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-12 13:31   ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 15:34     ` Joe Perches
2019-09-12 20:01       ` Bart Van Assche
2019-09-12 20:34         ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 14:26           ` Rob Herring
2019-09-13 18:42             ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 19:17               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 20:33                 ` Joe Perches
2019-09-13 12:56         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-13 13:54           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-09-13 14:59             ` Guenter Roeck
2019-09-13 22:03     ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-09-12 13:10 ` Bart Van Assche

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