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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Chao Leng <lengchao@huawei.com>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3 rfc] Fix nvme-tcp and nvme-rdma controller reset hangs
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 05:45:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210318044539.GA27156@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55142c25-9a70-08a0-d46a-cad21da59d19@huawei.com>

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 09:51:14AM +0800, Chao Leng wrote:
>>>> The multipath code would have to kick the list.  We could also try to
>>>> split into two flags, one that affects blk_queue_enter and one that
>>>> affects the tag allocation.
>>>>
>>>>> moving nvme_start_freeze from nvme_rdma_teardown_io_queues to nvme_rdma_configure_io_queues can fix it.
>>>>> It can also avoid I/O hang long time if reconnection failed.
>>>>
>>>> Can you explain how we'd still ensure that no new commands get queued
>>>> during teardown using that scheme?
>>> 1. tear down will cancel all inflight requests, and then multipath will clear the path.
>>> 2. and then we may freeze the controler.
>>> 3. nvme_ns_head_submit_bio can not find the reconnection controller as valid path, so it is safe.
>>
>> In non-mpath (which unfortunately is a valid use-case), there is no
>> failover, and we cannot freeze the queue after we stopped (and/or
>> started) the queues because then fail_non_ready_command() constantly return BLK_STS_RESOURCE (just causing a re-submission over and over
>> again) and the freeze will never complete (the commands are still
>> inflight from the queue->g_usage_counter perspective).
> If the request set the flags to REQ_FAILFAST_xxx, will hang long time if reconnection failed.
> This is not expected.
> Another, If the controller is not live and the controller is freezed ,fast_io_fail_tmo will not work.
> This is also not expected.
> So I think freezing the controller when reconnecting is not good idea.
> It's really not good behavior to try again and again. This is at least better than request hang long time.

Well, it is pretty clear that REQ_FAILFAST_* (and I'm still confused
about the three variants of that) should not block in blk_queue_enter,
and we should make sure nvme-multipath triggers that.  Let me thing
of a good way to refactor blk_queue_enter first to make that least
painful.

>> So I think we should still start queue freeze before we quiesce
>> the queues.
> We should unquiesce and unfreeze the queues when reconnecting, otherwise fast_io_fail_tmo will not work.
>>
>> I still don't see how the mpath NOWAIT suggestion works either...
> mpath will queuue request to other live path or requeue the request(if no used path), so it will not wait.
>> .

Yes.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-18  4:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-15 22:27 [PATCH 0/3 rfc] Fix nvme-tcp and nvme-rdma controller reset hangs Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-15 22:27 ` [PATCH 1/3] nvme: introduce nvme_ctrl_is_mpath helper Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-15 22:27 ` [PATCH 2/3] nvme-tcp: fix possible hang when trying to set a live path during I/O Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-15 22:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] nvme-rdma: " Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-16  3:24 ` [PATCH 0/3 rfc] Fix nvme-tcp and nvme-rdma controller reset hangs Chao Leng
2021-03-16  5:04   ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-16  6:18     ` Chao Leng
2021-03-16  6:25       ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-16 20:07 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-16 20:42   ` Keith Busch
2021-03-16 23:51     ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-17  2:55       ` Chao Leng
2021-03-17  6:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-17  7:59           ` Chao Leng
2021-03-17 18:43             ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-18  1:51               ` Chao Leng
2021-03-18  4:45                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2021-03-18 18:46                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-18 19:16                   ` Keith Busch
2021-03-18 19:31                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-18 21:52                       ` Keith Busch
2021-03-18 22:45                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-19 14:05                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 17:28                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 19:07                             ` Keith Busch
2021-03-19 19:34                             ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-20  6:11                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-21  6:49                                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-03-22  6:34                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-17  8:16           ` Sagi Grimberg

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