From: James Smart <james.smart@broadcom.com>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Chao Leng <lengchao@huawei.com>,
linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-fabrics: allow to queue requests for live queues
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:47:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <520f2317-533d-b546-dd35-80ae5f707aa7@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d62657c5-dc81-cde3-8a14-4449684982d9@grimberg.me>
On 7/28/2020 1:38 PM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>
>>> Can you please give an example? NVME_REQ_USERCMD should not be any
>>> different from any other type of I/O.
>> ...
>
> The problem I have with this code is that checking for NVME_REQ_USERCMD
> is a big hammer that you land on what can be normal I/O
> (e.g. nvme read/write/write-zeros), and we must not rely on this
> indication to prevent what you are describing.
>
> It maybe (just maybe) OK to check NVME_REQ_USERCMD only for the admin
> queue, but we are really circling over the fact that we cannot reliably
> send admin connect before to go off first, because we have to unquiesce
> it before we issue the admin connect, and there might be a stray command
> going into execution before we submit the admin connect.
agree.
Didn't you suggest something separate to isolate the connect
commands/init commands ? Can we use a different tag set for
"initialization" commands? We can use different queue_rq routines with
different check ready checks. I don't like the overhead, but sure makes
the logic more straightforward.
>>>> As for the blk_rq_is_passthrough check - I guess I can see it being
>>>> based on the queue state, and the check looks ok (we should never
>>>> see !blk_rq_is_passthrough on the admin q).
>>>> But...
>>>> - I don't know why it was that important to change it. On the
>>>> connecting path, all you're doing is letting io start flowing
>>>> before all the queues have been created. Did you really need to
>>>> start that much sooner ?
>>>
>>> The issue is that controller in RESETTING state will have requests that
>>> are being issued, and if we don't let it pass through, it will hang
>>> around forever being requeued preventing queue freeze to complete.
>>
Isn't this the real problem: we require the request to complete in
order to get off the request queue in order to freeze. But to complete -
it has to finish with some status. This is ok if running multipath, as
mpath queues and retries - but what mpath is not running ? The issuer of
the io will get the error ? am I understanding it ? If so I don't
think a simple check reorg such as proposed will work as ultimately we
can't return an error to something that doesn't know how to requeue/retry.
Should we always be putting even non-mp devices under mp, thus mp
catches the errors rather than the blk queue, and can have a short delay
while the controller reconnects ? At least normal io can be handled
this way and we'd have to figure out the ioctl path. But it should
still allow the core io, such as scanning, to get the error and fail
out, to be picked up after the reconnect.
-- james
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-28 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-28 5:35 [PATCH] nvme-fabrics: allow to queue requests for live queues Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-28 6:44 ` Chao Leng
2020-07-28 6:49 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-28 17:11 ` James Smart
2020-07-28 17:50 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-28 20:11 ` James Smart
2020-07-28 20:38 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-28 22:47 ` James Smart [this message]
2020-07-28 23:39 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-28 10:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-28 16:50 ` James Smart
2020-07-29 5:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-29 5:53 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-07-29 6:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
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