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From: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshiiitr@gmail.com>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"Pavel Begunkov" <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
	io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, sbates@raithlin.com,
	logang@deltatee.com, "Pankaj Raghav" <pankydev8@gmail.com>,
	"Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Adam Manzanares" <a.manzanares@samsung.com>,
	"Anuj Gupta" <anuj20.g@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/17] nvme: wire-up support for async-passthru on char-device.
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:42:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88827a86-1304-e699-ec11-2718e280f9ad@grimberg.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220324062053.GA12519@lst.de>


>>>> I know, and that was my original question, no one cares that this
>>>> interface completely lacks this capability? Maybe it is fine, but
>>>> it is not a trivial assumption given that this is designed to be more
>>>> than an interface to send admin/vs commands to the controller...
>>>
>>> Most people don't really care about or use multipath, so it's not a
>>> primary goal.
>>
>> This statement is generally correct. However what application would be
>> interested in speaking raw nvme to a device and gaining performance that
>> is even higher than the block layer (which is great to begin with)?
> 
> If passthrough is faster than the block I/O path we're doing someting
> wrong.  At best it should be the same performance.

That is not what the changelog says.

> That being said multipathing is an integral part of the nvme driver
> architecture, and the /dev/ngX devices.  If we want to support uring
> async commands on /dev/ngX it will have to support multipath.

Couldn't agree more...


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-24 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20220308152651epcas5p1ebd2dc7fa01db43dd587c228a3695696@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 00/17] io_uring passthru over nvme Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152653epcas5p10c31f58cf6bff125cc0baa176b4d4fac@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 01/17] io_uring: add support for 128-byte SQEs Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152655epcas5p4ae47d715e1c15069e97152dcd283fd40@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 02/17] fs: add file_operations->async_cmd() Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152658epcas5p3929bd1fcf75edc505fec71901158d1b5@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 03/17] io_uring: add infra and support for IORING_OP_URING_CMD Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  1:51       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11  2:43         ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-11 17:11           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 18:47             ` Paul Moore
2022-03-11 20:57               ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 21:03                 ` Paul Moore
2022-03-14 16:25             ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-14 16:32               ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-14 18:05                 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-14 19:40                   ` Luis Chamberlain
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152700epcas5p4130d20119a3a250a2515217d6552f668@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 04/17] nvme: modify nvme_alloc_request to take an additional parameter Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  6:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152702epcas5p1eb1880e024ac8b9531c85a82f31a4e78@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 05/17] nvme: wire-up support for async-passthru on char-device Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10  0:02       ` Clay Mayers
2022-03-10  8:32         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  7:01       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 16:23         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15  8:54           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-16  7:27             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24  6:22               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 17:45                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 17:56       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 18:53         ` Paul Moore
2022-03-11 21:02           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-13 21:53       ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-14 17:54         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15  9:02           ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-16  9:21             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-16 10:56               ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-16 11:51                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-16 13:52                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-16 14:35                     ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-16 14:50                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-24  6:20                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 10:42                           ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
2022-03-22 15:18       ` Clay Mayers
2022-03-22 16:57         ` Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152704epcas5p16610e1f50672b25fa1df5f7c5c261bb5@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 06/17] io_uring: prep for fixed-buffer enabled uring-cmd Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152707epcas5p430127761a7fd4bf90c2501eabe9ee96e@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 07/17] io_uring: add support for uring_cmd with fixed-buffer Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152709epcas5p1f9d274a0214dc462c22c278a72d8697c@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 08/17] nvme: enable passthrough " Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10  8:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-11  6:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 13:06         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15  8:55           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 12:18       ` Ming Lei
2022-03-14 13:09         ` Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152711epcas5p31de5d63f5de91fae94e61e5c857c0f13@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 09/17] io_uring: plug for async bypass Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10  8:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 14:33         ` Ming Lei
2022-03-15  8:56           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-11 17:15       ` Luis Chamberlain
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152714epcas5p4c5a0d16512fd7054c9a713ee28ede492@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 10/17] block: wire-up support for plugging Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10  8:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 12:40         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-14 14:40           ` Ming Lei
2022-03-21  7:02             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-23  1:27               ` Ming Lei
2022-03-23  1:41                 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-23  1:58                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-23  2:10                     ` Ming Lei
2022-03-23  2:17                       ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152716epcas5p3d38d2372c184259f1a10c969f7e4396f@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:20     ` [PATCH 11/17] block: factor out helper for bio allocation from cache Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10  8:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 12:25         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24  6:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 17:45             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-25  5:38               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152718epcas5p3afd2c8a628f4e9733572cbb39270989d@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:21     ` [PATCH 12/17] nvme: enable bio-cache for fixed-buffer passthru Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  6:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 18:18         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15  8:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152720epcas5p19653942458e160714444942ddb8b8579@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:21     ` [PATCH 13/17] nvme: allow user passthrough commands to poll Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 17:08       ` Keith Busch
2022-03-09  7:03         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  6:49           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152723epcas5p34460b4af720e515317f88dbb78295f06@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:21     ` [PATCH 14/17] io_uring: add polling support for uring-cmd Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  6:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 10:16         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15  8:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-16  5:09             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24  6:30               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152725epcas5p36d1ce3269a47c1c22cc0d66bdc2b9eb3@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:21     ` [PATCH 15/17] nvme: wire-up polling for uring-passthru Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152727epcas5p20e605718dd99e97c94f9232d40d04d95@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:21     ` [PATCH 16/17] io_uring: add support for non-inline uring-cmd Kanchan Joshi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220308152729epcas5p17e82d59c68076eb46b5ef658619d65e3@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-03-08 15:21     ` [PATCH 17/17] nvme: enable non-inline passthru commands Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10  8:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 11:50         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 14:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 18:43             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11  6:27               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-22 17:10                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24  6:32                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-25 13:39                     ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-28  4:44                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-30 12:59                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30 13:02                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30 13:14                         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-01  1:25                           ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01  2:33                             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-01  2:44                               ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01  3:05                                 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01  6:32                                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-19 17:31                                 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-19 18:19                                   ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                                     ` <CGME20220420152003epcas5p3991e6941773690bcb425fd9d817105c3@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-04-20 15:14                                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-20 15:28                                         ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-01  1:23                         ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01  1:22                   ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01  6:29                     ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24 21:09       ` Clay Mayers
2022-03-24 23:36         ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-10  8:29   ` [PATCH 00/17] io_uring passthru over nvme Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 10:05     ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 16:43       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 23:35         ` Adam Manzanares
2022-03-12  2:27           ` Adam Manzanares
2022-03-13  5:07             ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-14 20:30               ` Adam Manzanares
2022-03-13  5:10         ` Kanchan Joshi

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