From: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
To: "Meneghini, John" <John.Meneghini@netapp.com>,
Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>, Chao Leng <lengchao@huawei.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
Hannes de <hare@suse.de>, Ewan Milne <emilne@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-core: fix io interrupt when work with dm-multipah
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:03:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d641d7d-8b3f-759b-afa5-1e5d4be0ff82@grimberg.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <729820BC-5F38-4E22-A83A-862E57BAE201@netapp.com>
>>> John, Wat do you think about if delete translate NVME_SC_CMD_INTERRUPTED
>>> to BLK_STS_TARGET? Thank you.
>
> I think returning to BLK_STS_TARGET for NVME_SC_CMD_INTERRUPTED and NVME_SC_NS_NOT_READY
> was a potentially non-backwards compatible change that Keith made in response to a problem that
> I reported in patch 35038bffa87da.
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=35038bffa87da
>
> I don’t think it would be a mistake to back out this change. We've had a number of problems
> in the distributions with dm-mp and other legacy code getting confused by this change.
From what I see the point of this change was to have these status codes
to do exactly what they need to do, use the local retry flow.
>>> BLK_STS_TARGET means target has critical error. NVME_SC_CMD_INTERRUPTED
>>> just means target need retry io. It is not suitable to translate
>>> NVME_SC_CMD_INTERRUPTED to BLK_STS_TARGET. Maybe translate to
>>> BLK_STS_IOERR is also not suitable, we should translate
>>> NVME_SC_CMD_INTERRUPTED to BLK_STS_AGAIN.
>>> We can do like this:
>>
>> BLK_STS_AGAIN is a bad choice as we use it for calls that block when
>> the callers asked for non-blocking submission. I'm really not sure
>> we want to change anything here - the error definition clearly states
>> it is not a failure but a request to retry later.
>
> Agreed. The historical behavior in nvme-core has been to return BLK_STS_IOERR status for all new
> or unknown NVMe errors.
Which is the correct thing to do.
> . On 8/6/20, 10:26 AM, "Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 01:52:42PM +0800, Chao Leng wrote:
> > NVME_SC_LBA_RANGE should failfast, because retry can not success.
>
> The DNR bit is how NVMe conveys such things.
>
> I think that NVME_SC_LBA_RANGE has historically returned BLK_STS_TARGET so that
> shouldn't be changed. I agree that DNR - and now the new ACRE mechanism - is what
> should control the command retry behavior in NVMe.
Completely agree here too.
> > NVME_SC_NS_NOT_READY may retry success, but the probality is very low.
> > NVME_SC_CMD_INTERRUPTED need retry, according to protocol define, retry will success.
>
> If the upper layers set a request such that "noretry" is true, that's
> the behavior you're going to get. Sprinkling special exceptions around
> is not a good idea.
>
> I agree.
I also 100% agree here.
> I think the problem here is that the current BLK_STS and FAST_FAIL mechanisms
> were designed support legacy protocols like SCSI. They assume that all retry behavior is
> controlled by other components in the stack. NVMe is presenting new protocol features
> and semantics which probably can't be effectively supported by those legacy BLK_STS
> and FAST_FAIL mechanisms without passing more information up the stack.
Not sure how generic this new blk status would be.. It would probably
make a lot more sense of there are other consumers for such a status
code.
Maybe we could set it to BLK_STS_TIMEOUT with a big fat comment for why
we are doing this...
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-27 5:58 [PATCH] nvme-core: fix io interrupt when work with dm-multipah Chao Leng
2020-07-28 11:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-29 2:54 ` Chao Leng
2020-07-29 5:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-30 1:49 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-05 6:40 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-05 15:29 ` Keith Busch
2020-08-06 5:52 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-06 14:26 ` Keith Busch
2020-08-06 15:59 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-06 16:17 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-06 18:40 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-06 19:19 ` [PATCH] nvme: restore use of blk_path_error() in nvme_complete_rq() Mike Snitzer
2020-08-06 22:42 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-07 0:07 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-07 1:21 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-07 4:50 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-07 23:35 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-08 21:08 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-08 21:11 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-10 14:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-11 12:54 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-10 8:10 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-11 12:36 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-12 7:51 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-10 14:36 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-10 17:22 ` [PATCH] nvme: explicitly use normal NVMe error handling when appropriate Mike Snitzer
2020-08-11 3:32 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-11 4:20 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-11 6:17 ` Chao Leng
2020-08-11 14:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-13 14:48 ` [RESEND PATCH] " Mike Snitzer
2020-08-13 15:29 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-13 15:43 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-13 15:59 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-13 15:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-13 17:47 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-13 18:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-13 19:03 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-14 4:26 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-14 6:53 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-14 6:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-14 7:02 ` Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-14 3:23 ` Meneghini, John
2020-08-07 0:44 ` [PATCH] nvme: restore use of blk_path_error() in nvme_complete_rq() Sagi Grimberg
2020-08-10 12:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-08-10 15:06 ` Mike Snitzer
2020-08-11 3:45 ` [PATCH] " Chao Leng
2020-08-07 0:03 ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
2020-08-07 2:28 ` [PATCH] nvme-core: fix io interrupt when work with dm-multipah Chao Leng
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