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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+e58112d71f77113ddb7b@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: WARNING in __mmdrop
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:25:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190724142533-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3dfa2269-60ba-7dd8-99af-5aef8552bd98@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 06:08:05PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/7/24 下午4:05, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:17:14AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2019/7/23 下午11:02, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:34:29PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On 2019/7/23 下午6:27, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > Yes, since there could be multiple co-current invalidation requests. We need
> > > > > > > count them to make sure we don't pin wrong pages.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I also wonder about ordering. kvm has this:
> > > > > > > >            /*
> > > > > > > >              * Used to check for invalidations in progress, of the pfn that is
> > > > > > > >              * returned by pfn_to_pfn_prot below.
> > > > > > > >              */
> > > > > > > >             mmu_seq = kvm->mmu_notifier_seq;
> > > > > > > >             /*
> > > > > > > >              * Ensure the read of mmu_notifier_seq isn't reordered with PTE reads in
> > > > > > > >              * gfn_to_pfn_prot() (which calls get_user_pages()), so that we don't
> > > > > > > >              * risk the page we get a reference to getting unmapped before we have a
> > > > > > > >              * chance to grab the mmu_lock without mmu_notifier_retry() noticing.
> > > > > > > >              *
> > > > > > > >              * This smp_rmb() pairs with the effective smp_wmb() of the combination
> > > > > > > >              * of the pte_unmap_unlock() after the PTE is zapped, and the
> > > > > > > >              * spin_lock() in kvm_mmu_notifier_invalidate_<page|range_end>() before
> > > > > > > >              * mmu_notifier_seq is incremented.
> > > > > > > >              */
> > > > > > > >             smp_rmb();
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > does this apply to us? Can't we use a seqlock instead so we do
> > > > > > > > not need to worry?
> > > > > > > I'm not familiar with kvm MMU internals, but we do everything under of
> > > > > > > mmu_lock.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > I don't think this helps at all.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There's no lock between checking the invalidate counter and
> > > > > > get user pages fast within vhost_map_prefetch. So it's possible
> > > > > > that get user pages fast reads PTEs speculatively before
> > > > > > invalidate is read.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > In vhost_map_prefetch() we do:
> > > > > 
> > > > >           spin_lock(&vq->mmu_lock);
> > > > > 
> > > > >           ...
> > > > > 
> > > > >           err = -EFAULT;
> > > > >           if (vq->invalidate_count)
> > > > >                   goto err;
> > > > > 
> > > > >           ...
> > > > > 
> > > > >           npinned = __get_user_pages_fast(uaddr->uaddr, npages,
> > > > >                                           uaddr->write, pages);
> > > > > 
> > > > >           ...
> > > > > 
> > > > >           spin_unlock(&vq->mmu_lock);
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is this not sufficient?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > So what orders __get_user_pages_fast wrt invalidate_count read?
> > > 
> > > So in invalidate_end() callback we have:
> > > 
> > > spin_lock(&vq->mmu_lock);
> > > --vq->invalidate_count;
> > >          spin_unlock(&vq->mmu_lock);
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So even PTE is read speculatively before reading invalidate_count (only in
> > > the case of invalidate_count is zero). The spinlock has guaranteed that we
> > > won't read any stale PTEs.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > I'm sorry I just do not get the argument.
> > If you want to order two reads you need an smp_rmb
> > or stronger between them executed on the same CPU.
> > 
> > Executing any kind of barrier on another CPU
> > will have no ordering effect on the 1st one.
> > 
> > 
> > So if CPU1 runs the prefetch, and CPU2 runs invalidate
> > callback, read of invalidate counter on CPU1 can bypass
> > read of PTE on CPU1 unless there's a barrier
> > in between, and nothing CPU2 does can affect that outcome.
> > 
> > 
> > What did I miss?
> 
> 
> It doesn't harm if PTE is read before invalidate_count, this is because:
> 
> 1) This speculation is serialized with invalidate_range_end() because of the
> spinlock
> 
> 2) This speculation can only make effect when we read invalidate_count as
> zero.
> 
> 3) This means the speculation is done after the last invalidate_range_end()
> and because of the spinlock, when we enter the critical section of spinlock
> in prefetch, we can not see any stale PTE that was unmapped before.
> 
> Am I wrong?
> 
> Thanks

OK I think you are right. Sorry it took me a while to figure out.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-24 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2019-07-20 10:08 ` WARNING in __mmdrop syzbot
2019-07-21 10:02   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-21 12:18     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22  5:24       ` Jason Wang
2019-07-22  8:08         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  4:01           ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  5:01             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  5:47               ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  7:23                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  7:53                   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  8:10                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  8:49                       ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  9:26                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23 13:31                           ` Jason Wang
2019-07-25  5:52                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25  7:43                               ` Jason Wang
2019-07-25  8:28                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 13:21                                   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-25 13:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25 14:25                                       ` Jason Wang
2019-07-26 11:49                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 12:00                                           ` Jason Wang
2019-07-26 12:38                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 12:53                                               ` Jason Wang
2019-07-26 13:36                                                 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-26 13:49                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29  5:54                                                     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-29  8:59                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 14:24                                                         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-29 14:44                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30  7:44                                                             ` Jason Wang
2019-07-30  8:03                                                               ` Jason Wang
2019-07-30 15:08                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-31  8:49                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 23:00                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-26 13:47                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 14:00                                                   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-26 14:10                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 15:03                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-29  5:56                                                       ` Jason Wang
2019-07-21 12:28     ` RFC: call_rcu_outstanding (was Re: WARNING in __mmdrop) Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-21 13:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-21 17:53         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-21 19:28           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22  7:56             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22 11:57               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-21 21:08         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-21 23:31           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22  7:52             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22 11:51               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22 13:41                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-22 15:52                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22 16:04                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-22 16:15                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22 16:15                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22 15:14             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-07-22 15:47               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22 15:55                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22 16:13                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22 16:25                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22 16:32                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-22 18:58                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-07-22  5:21     ` WARNING in __mmdrop Jason Wang
2019-07-22  8:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  3:55         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  5:02           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  5:48             ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  7:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  7:55                 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23  7:56               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23  8:42                 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23 10:27                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23 13:34                     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-23 15:02                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-24  2:17                         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-24  8:05                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-24 10:08                             ` Jason Wang
2019-07-24 18:25                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-07-25  3:44                                 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-25  5:09                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-24 16:53                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-24 18:25                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23 10:42                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-23 13:37                     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-22 14:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-25  6:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-25  7:44         ` Jason Wang

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