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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-um <linux-um@lists.infradead.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/15] maccess: rename strnlen_unsafe_user to strnlen_user_unsafe
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 19:47:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200506174747.GA7549@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wj3T6u_kj8r9f3aGXCjuyN210_gJC=AXPFm9=wL-dGALA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 10:44:15AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So while I think using a consistent convention is good, and it's true
> that there is a difference in the convention between the two cases
> ("unsafe" at the beginning vs end), one of them is actually about the
> safety and security of the operation (and we have automated logic
> these days to verify it on x86), the other has nothing to do with
> "safety", really.
> 
> Would it be better to standardize around a "probe_xyz()" naming?

So:

  probe_strncpy, probe_strncpy_user, probe_strnlen_user?

Sounds weird, but at least it is consistent.

> Or perhaps a "xyz_nofault()" naming?

That sounds a little better:

   strncpy_nofault, strncpy_user_nofault, strnlen_user_nofault

> I realize this is nit-picky, and I think the patch series as-is is
> already an improvement, but I do think our naming in this area is
> really quite bad.

Always open for improvements :)

> The fact that we have "probe_kernel_read()" but then
> "strncpy_from_user_unsafe()" for the _same_ conceptual difference
> really tells me how inconsistent the naming for these kinds of "we
> can't take page faults" is. No?

True.  If we wanted to do _nofaul, what would the basic read/write
versions be?

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-06 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-06  6:22 clean up and streamline probe_kernel_* and friends Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 01/15] maccess: unexport probe_kernel_write and probe_user_write Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 02/15] maccess: remove various unused weak aliases Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 03/15] maccess: remove duplicate kerneldoc commens Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 04/15] maccess: clarify kerneldoc comments Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 05/15] maccess: update the top of file comment Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 06/15] maccess: rename strncpy_from_unsafe_user to strncpy_from_user_unsafe Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 07/15] maccess: rename strncpy_from_unsafe_strict to strncpy_from_kernel_unsafe Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 08/15] maccess: rename strnlen_unsafe_user to strnlen_user_unsafe Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06 17:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-06 17:47     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-05-06 17:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 09/15] maccess: remove probe_read_common and probe_write_common Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 10/15] maccess: unify the probe kernel arch hooks Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 11/15] maccess: remove strncpy_from_unsafe Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-11  5:34   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 12/15] maccess: always use strict semantics for probe_kernel_read Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-11  5:05   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-11  5:27     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 13/15] maccess: move user access routines together Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 14/15] maccess: allow architectures to provide kernel probing directly Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06  6:22 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86: use non-set_fs based maccess routines Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06 17:51   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-06 18:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-05-06 19:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-07  5:12         ` Christoph Hellwig

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