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Shutemov" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , Michal Hocko , Oscar Salvador , Matthew Wilcox , Andrea Arcangeli , Minchan Kim , Jann Horn , Jason Gunthorpe , Dave Hansen , Hugh Dickins , Rik van Riel , "Michael S . Tsirkin" , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , Vlastimil Babka , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , Thomas Bogendoerfer , "James E.J. Bottomley" , Helge Deller , Chris Zankel , Max Filippov , Mike Kravetz , Peter Xu , Rolf Eike Beer , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Linux API References: <20210308164520.18323-1-david@redhat.com> <20210315122213.k52wtlbbhsw42pks@box> <7d607d1c-efd5-3888-39bb-9e5f8bc08185@redhat.com> <20210315130353.iqnwsnp2c2wpt4y2@box> From: David Hildenbrand Organization: Red Hat GmbH Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv2] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_POPULATE_(READ|WRITE) to prefault/prealloc memory Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:26:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210315130353.iqnwsnp2c2wpt4y2@box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.11 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org On 15.03.21 14:03, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 01:25:40PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> On 15.03.21 13:22, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote: >>> On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 05:45:20PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>> + case -EHWPOISON: /* Skip over any poisoned pages. */ >>>> + start += PAGE_SIZE; >>>> + continue; >>> >>> Why is it good approach? It's not abvious to me. >> >> My main motivation was to simplify return code handling. I don't want to >> return -EHWPOISON to user space > > Why? Hiding the problem under the rug doesn't help anybody. SIGBUS later > is not better than an error upfront. Well, if you think about "prefaulting page tables", the first intuition is certainly not to check for poisoned pages, right? After all, you are not actually accessing memory, you are allocating memory if required and fill page tables. OTOH, mlock() will also choke on poisoned pages. With the current semantics, you can start and run a VM just fine. Preallocation/prefaulting succeeded after all. On access you will get a SIGBUS, from which e.g., QEMU can recover by injecting an MCE into the guest - just like if you would hit a poisoned page later. The problem we are talking about is most probably very rare, especially when using MADV_POPULATE_ for actual preallocation. I don't have a strong opinion; not bailing out on poisoned pages felt like the right thing to do. -- Thanks, David / dhildenb