From: "Dey, Megha" <megha.dey@linux.intel.com> To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>, Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> Cc: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>, maz@kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>, Jacob jun Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>, "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Yi L Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, baolu.lu@intel.com, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Sanjay K Kumar <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>, "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Jing Lin <jing.lin@intel.com>, kwankhede@nvidia.com, eric.auger@redhat.com, parav@mellanox.com, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Add VFIO mediated device support and IMS support for the idxd driver. Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 15:31:51 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <098aef60-35a4-dc44-be07-ea43c1a726c7@linux.intel.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20200423191846.GE13640@mellanox.com> Hi Jason, On 4/23/2020 12:18 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 02:24:11PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:55 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 04:33:46PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote: >>>> The actual code is independent of the stage 2 driver code submission that adds >>>> support for SVM, ENQCMD(S), PASID, and shared workqueues. This code series will >>>> support dedicated workqueue on a guest with no vIOMMU. >>>> >>>> A new device type "mdev" is introduced for the idxd driver. This allows the wq >>>> to be dedicated to the usage of a VFIO mediated device (mdev). Once the work >>>> queue (wq) is enabled, an uuid generated by the user can be added to the wq >>>> through the uuid sysfs attribute for the wq. After the association, a mdev can >>>> be created using this UUID. The mdev driver code will associate the uuid and >>>> setup the mdev on the driver side. When the create operation is successful, the >>>> uuid can be passed to qemu. When the guest boots up, it should discover a DSA >>>> device when doing PCI discovery. >>> >>> I'm feeling really skeptical that adding all this PCI config space and >>> MMIO BAR emulation to the kernel just to cram this into a VFIO >>> interface is a good idea, that kind of stuff is much safer in >>> userspace. >>> >>> Particularly since vfio is not really needed once a driver is using >>> the PASID stuff. We already have general code for drivers to use to >>> attach a PASID to a mm_struct - and using vfio while disabling all the >>> DMA/iommu config really seems like an abuse. >>> >>> A /dev/idxd char dev that mmaps a bar page and links it to a PASID >>> seems a lot simpler and saner kernel wise. >>> >>>> The mdev utilizes Interrupt Message Store or IMS[3] instead of MSIX for >>>> interrupts for the guest. This preserves MSIX for host usages and also allows a >>>> significantly larger number of interrupt vectors for guest usage. >>> >>> I never did get a reply to my earlier remarks on the IMS patches. >>> >>> The concept of a device specific addr/data table format for MSI is not >>> Intel specific. This should be general code. We have a device that can >>> use this kind of kernel capability today. >> >> This has been my concern reviewing the implementation. IMS needs more >> than one in-tree user to validate degrees of freedom in the api. I had >> been missing a second "in-tree user" to validate the scope of the >> flexibility that was needed. > > IMS is too narrowly specified. > > All platforms that support MSI today can support IMS. It is simply a > way for the platform to give the driver an addr/data pair that triggers > an interrupt when a posted write is performed to that pair. > Well, yes and no. IMS requires interrupt remapping in addition to the dynamic nature of IRQ allocation. > This is different from the other interrupt setup flows which are > tightly tied to the PCI layer. Here the driver should simply ask for > interrupts. > > Ie the entire IMS API to the driver should be something very simple > like: > > struct message_irq > { > uint64_t addr; > uint32_t data; > }; > > struct message_irq *request_message_irq( > struct device *, irq_handler_t handler, unsigned long flags, > const char *name, void *dev); > > And the plumbing underneath should setup the irq chips and so forth as > required. > yes, this seems correct. > Jason >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-01 22:31 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-04-21 23:33 Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:33 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] drivers/base: Introduce platform_msi_ops Dave Jiang 2020-04-26 7:01 ` Greg KH 2020-04-27 21:38 ` Dave Jiang 2020-04-28 7:34 ` Greg KH 2020-04-21 23:33 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] drivers/base: Introduce a new platform-msi list Dave Jiang 2020-04-25 21:13 ` Thomas Gleixner 2020-05-04 0:08 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] drivers/base: Allocate/free platform-msi interrupts by group Dave Jiang 2020-04-25 21:23 ` Thomas Gleixner 2020-05-04 0:08 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] drivers/base: Add support for a new IMS irq domain Dave Jiang 2020-04-23 20:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-01 22:30 ` Dey, Megha 2020-05-03 22:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-03 22:40 ` Dey, Megha 2020-05-03 22:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-04 0:25 ` Dey, Megha 2020-05-04 12:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-06 10:27 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-04-25 21:38 ` Thomas Gleixner 2020-05-04 0:11 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] ims-msi: Add mask/unmask routines Dave Jiang 2020-04-25 21:49 ` Thomas Gleixner 2020-05-04 0:16 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] ims-msi: Enable IMS interrupts Dave Jiang 2020-04-25 22:13 ` Thomas Gleixner 2020-05-04 0:17 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] Documentation: Interrupt Message store Dave Jiang 2020-04-23 20:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-01 22:32 ` Dey, Megha 2020-05-03 22:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-03 22:41 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] vfio/mdev: Add a member for iommu domain in mdev_device Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] vfio/type1: Save domain when attach domain to mdev Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] dmaengine: idxd: add config support for readonly devices Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] dmaengine: idxd: add IMS support in base driver Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] dmaengine: idxd: add device support functions in prep for mdev Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] dmaengine: idxd: add support for VFIO mediated device Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] dmaengine: idxd: add error notification from host driver to " Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] dmaengine: idxd: add ABI documentation for mediated device support Dave Jiang 2020-04-21 23:54 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] Add VFIO mediated device support and IMS support for the idxd driver Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-22 0:53 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-04-22 11:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-22 21:14 ` Raj, Ashok 2020-04-23 19:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-24 3:27 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-04-24 12:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-24 16:25 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-04-24 18:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-26 5:18 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-04-26 19:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-27 3:43 ` Alex Williamson 2020-04-27 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-27 13:19 ` Alex Williamson 2020-04-27 13:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-27 14:18 ` Alex Williamson 2020-04-27 14:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-27 15:41 ` Alex Williamson 2020-04-27 16:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-27 16:25 ` Dave Jiang 2020-04-27 21:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-29 9:42 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-05-08 20:47 ` Raj, Ashok 2020-05-08 23:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-08 23:52 ` Dave Jiang 2020-05-09 0:09 ` Raj, Ashok 2020-05-09 12:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-13 2:29 ` Jason Wang 2020-05-13 8:30 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-05-13 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-27 12:13 ` Tian, Kevin 2020-04-27 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-04-22 21:24 ` Dan Williams 2020-04-23 19:17 ` Dan Williams 2020-04-23 19:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-01 22:31 ` Dey, Megha 2020-05-03 22:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-03 22:32 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-23 19:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-01 22:31 ` Dey, Megha [this message] 2020-05-03 22:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-03 22:31 ` Dey, Megha 2020-05-03 22:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-04 0:20 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-22 23:04 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-23 19:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe 2020-05-01 22:32 ` Dey, Megha 2020-04-24 6:31 ` Jason Wang
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