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From: Jianjun Wang <jianjun.wang@mediatek.com>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, <maz@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@mediatek.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Matthias Brugger" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Sj Huang" <sj.huang@mediatek.com>, <youlin.pei@mediatek.com>,
	<chuanjia.liu@mediatek.com>, <qizhong.cheng@mediatek.com>,
	<sin_jieyang@mediatek.com>, <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	<Rex-BC.Chen@mediatek.com>, <anson.chuang@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [v8,3/7] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add MediaTek Gen3 driver for MT8192
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:31:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1616463094.25961.8.camel@mhfsdcap03> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210319185341.nyxmo7nwii5fzsxc@pali>

On Fri, 2021-03-19 at 19:53 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 18 March 2021 13:48:07 Jianjun Wang wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-03-18 at 01:02 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Saturday 13 March 2021 15:43:14 Jianjun Wang wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 13:38 +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 24 February 2021 14:11:28 Jianjun Wang wrote:
> > > > > > +static int mtk_pcie_startup_port(struct mtk_pcie_port *port)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/* Delay 100ms to wait the reference clocks become stable */
> > > > > > +	msleep(100);
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/* De-assert PERST# signal */
> > > > > > +	val &= ~PCIE_PE_RSTB;
> > > > > > +	writel_relaxed(val, port->base + PCIE_RST_CTRL_REG);
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hello! This is a new driver which introduce yet another custom timeout
> > > > > prior PERST# signal for PCIe card is de-asserted. Timeouts for other
> > > > > drivers I collected in older email [2].
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please look at my email [1] about PCIe Warm Reset if you have any clue
> > > > > about it. Lorenzo and Rob already expressed that this timeout should not
> > > > > be driver specific. But nobody was able to "decode" and "understand"
> > > > > PCIe spec yet about these timeouts.
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Pali,
> > > > 
> > > > I think this is more like a platform specific timeout, which is used to
> > > > wait for the reference clocks to become stable and finish the reset flow
> > > > of HW blocks.
> > > > 
> > > > Here is the steps to start a link training in this HW:
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Assert all reset signals which including the transaction layer, PIPE
> > > > interface and internal bus interface;
> > > > 
> > > > 2. De-assert reset signals except the PERST#, this will make the
> > > > physical layer active and start to output the reference clock, but the
> > > > EP device remains in the reset state.
> > > >    Before releasing the PERST# signal, the HW blocks needs at least 10ms
> > > > to finish the reset flow, and ref-clk needs about 30us to become stable.
> > > > 
> > > > 3. De-assert PERST# signal, wait LTSSM enter L0 state.
> > > > 
> > > > This 100ms timeout is reference to TPVPERL in the PCIe CEM spec. Since
> > > > we are in the kernel stage, the power supply has already stabled, this
> > > > timeout may not take that long.
> > > 
> > > I think that this is not platform specific timeout or platform specific
> > > steps. This matches generic steps as defined in PCIe CEM spec, section
> > > 2.2.1. Initial Power-Up (G3 to S0).
> > > 
> > > What is platform specific is just how to achieve these steps.
> > > 
> > > Am I right?
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > TPVPERL is one of my timeout candidates as minimal required timeout for
> > > Warm Reset. I have wrote it in email:
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20200430082245.xblvb7xeamm4e336@pali/
> > > 
> > > But I'm not sure as specially in none diagram is described just warm
> > > reset as defined in mPCIe CEM (3.2.4.3. PERST# Signal).
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I would suggest to define constants for those timeouts. I guess
> > > that in future we could be able to define "generic" timeout constants
> > > which would not be in private driver section, but in some common header
> > > file.
> > 
> > I agree with this, but I'm not sure if we really need that long time in
> > the kernel stage, because the power supply has already stable and it's
> > really impact the boot time, especially when the platform have multi
> > ports and not connect any EP device, we need to wait 200ms for each port
> > when system bootup.
> 
> Ports are independent. So you can initialize them in parallel, right?
> 
> If you initialize each port in separate worker then during msleep calls
> kernel can schedule other kernel thread to run and so it does not
> increase boot time. While pcie is sleeping kernel can do other things.
> So the result is that whole boot time is not increased, just reordered.
> 
> > For this PCIe controller driver, I would like to change the timeout
> > value to 10ms to comply with the HW design, and save some boot time.
> 
> In case you can connect _any_ PCIe card to your HW then you cannot
> decrease or change timeouts required by PCIe specs. Otherwise there can
> be a card which would not be initialized correctly.
> 
> I'm debugging driver for aardvark PCIe controller and I see that Compex
> cards really needs these timeouts, otherwise link is down and card
> cannot be detected.
> 
> So I guess that there can be also other cards which requires other
> timeouts as specified in PCIe specs.

OK, I'll keep this timeout value. 

One more question, is there any chance that we can put this linkup flow
to a more "standard" way, such as drivers provides the ops of the PERST#
pin and let the framework to decide how to start a link training, or we
just use macro to replace this timeout value in the future?

Thanks.

> 
> > > 
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +	/* Check if the link is up or not */
> > > > > > +	err = readl_poll_timeout(port->base + PCIE_LINK_STATUS_REG, val,
> > > > > > +				 !!(val & PCIE_PORT_LINKUP), 20,
> > > > > > +				 50 * USEC_PER_MSEC);
> > > > > 
> > > > > IIRC, you need to wait at least 100ms after de-asserting PERST# signal
> > > > > as it is required by PCIe specs and also because experiments proved that
> > > > > some Compex wifi cards (e.g. WLE900VX) are not detected if you do not
> > > > > wait this minimal time.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, this should be 100ms, I will fix it at next version, thanks for
> > > > your review.
> > > 
> > > In past Bjorn suggested to use msleep(PCI_PM_D3COLD_WAIT); macro for
> > > this step during reviewing aardvark driver.
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20190426161050.GA189964@google.com/
> > > 
> > > And next iteration used this PCI_PM_D3COLD_WAIT macro instead of 100:
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20190522213351.21366-2-repk@triplefau.lt/
> > 
> > Sure, I will use PCI_PM_D3COLD_WAIT macro instead in the next version.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > +	if (err) {
> > > > > > +		val = readl_relaxed(port->base + PCIE_LTSSM_STATUS_REG);
> > > > > > +		dev_err(port->dev, "PCIe link down, ltssm reg val: %#x\n", val);
> > > > > > +		return err;
> > > > > > +	}
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20210310110535.zh4pnn4vpmvzwl5q@pali/
> > > > > [2] - https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20200424092546.25p3hdtkehohe3xw@pali/
> > > > 
> > 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-23  1:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-24  6:11 [v8,0/7] PCI: mediatek: Add new generation controller support Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,1/7] dt-bindings: PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add YAML schema Jianjun Wang
2021-03-06 20:09   ` Rob Herring
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,2/7] PCI: Export pci_pio_to_address() for module use Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,3/7] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add MediaTek Gen3 driver for MT8192 Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24 13:36   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-25  3:07     ` Jianjun Wang
2021-03-11 12:38   ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-13  7:43     ` Jianjun Wang
2021-03-18  0:02       ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-18  5:48         ` Jianjun Wang
2021-03-19 18:53           ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-23  1:31             ` Jianjun Wang [this message]
2021-03-23 14:51               ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-29 22:58           ` Pali Rohár
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,4/7] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add INTx support Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24 14:24   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-25  3:10     ` Jianjun Wang
2021-03-09 11:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10  3:05     ` Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,5/7] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add MSI support Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24 14:31   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-25  3:09     ` Jianjun Wang
2021-03-09 11:23   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-10  6:48     ` Jianjun Wang
     [not found]       ` <87a6rbxs4w.wl-maz@kernel.org>
2021-03-11  9:47         ` Jianjun Wang
2021-03-11  0:05   ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-11  8:19     ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-11  9:50       ` Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,6/7] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add system PM support Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24 14:10   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-25  3:34     ` Jianjun Wang
2021-02-25 22:00       ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-02-26 10:06         ` Jianjun Wang
2021-02-24  6:11 ` [v8,7/7] MAINTAINERS: Add Jianjun Wang as MediaTek PCI co-maintainer Jianjun Wang

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