From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:44443 "EHLO mail-wg0-f44.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932238Ab2FTTeo (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:34:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 21:34:38 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: Yinghai Lu Cc: Bjorn Helgaas , Ulrich Drepper , jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , lenb@kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SNB PCI root information Message-ID: <20120620193438.GB2248@gmail.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: Sender: linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: * Yinghai Lu wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > As far as I can tell, here's Yinghai's recommendation:  the > > user argument should not override BIOS _PXM because if the > > BIOS gets the _PXM wrong, the user won't be able to work > > around it with the argument, which will force the vendor to > > fix the BIOS. > > > > I'm not buying it.  The convention that user-supplied > > arguments always take precedence is useful, easy to > > document, and matches user expectations.  It allows the user > > to work around both missing _PXM and incorrect _PXM. > > if the vendor provide _PXM, that _PXM should be right and be > trusted. > > if the vendor does not provide _PXM, we can have command line > to input it before user can get one updated BIOS from vendor. So how about an incorrect _PXM, or a slightly inefficient one? Why shouldn't it be possible for the user to override it? I mean, if we create a parameter space that tweaks data then why not make it complete and allow *all* firmware data to be (optionally) modified, from the kernel boot line? Thanks, Ingo