From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
Cc: lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
"Stephen Bates" <sbates@raithlin.com>,
"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
"Ira Weiny" <iweiny@intel.com>, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Ralph Campbell" <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"Don Dutile" <ddutile@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Hellström (VMware)" <thomas_os@shipmail.org>,
"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] get_user_pages() for PCI BAR Memory
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 11:46:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200207194620.GG8731@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200207182457.GM23346@mellanox.com>
On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 02:24:57PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Many systems can now support direct DMA between two PCI devices, for
> instance between a RDMA NIC and a NVMe CMB, or a RDMA NIC and GPU
> graphics memory. In many system architectures this peer-to-peer PCI-E
> DMA transfer is critical to achieving performance as there is simply
> not enough system memory/PCI-E bandwidth for data traffic to go
> through the CPU socket.
>
> For many years various out of tree solutions have existed to serve
> this need. Recently some components have been accpeted into mainline,
> such as the p2pdma system, which allows co-operating drivers to setup
> P2P DMA transfers at the PCI level. This has allowed some kernel P2P
> DMA transfers related to NVMe CMB and RDMA to become supported.
>
> A major next step is to enable P2P transfers under userspace
> control. This is a very broad topic, but for this session I propose to
> focus on initial cases of supporting drivers can setup a P2P transfer
> from a PCI BAR page mmap'd to userspace. This is the basic starting
> point for future discussions on how to adapt get_user_pages() IO paths
> (ie O_DIRECT, net zero copy TX, RDMA, etc) to support PCI BAR memory.
>
> As all current drivers doing DMA from user space must go through
> get_user_pages() (or its new sibling hmm_range_fault()), some
> extension of the get_user_pages() API is needed to allow drivers
> supporting P2P to see the pages.
>
> get_user_pages() will require some 'struct page' and 'struct
> vm_area_struct' representation of the BAR memory beyond what today's
> io_remap_pfn_range()/etc produces.
>
> This topic has been discussed in small groups in various conferences
> over the last year, (plumbers, ALPSS, LSF/MM 2019, etc). Having a
> larger group together would be productive, especially as the direction
> has a notable impact on the general mm.
>
> For patch sets, we've seen a number of attempts so far, but little has
> been merged yet. Common elements of past discussions have been:
> - Building struct page for BAR memory
> - Stuffing BAR memory into scatter/gather lists, bios and skbs
> - DMA mapping BAR memory
> - Referencing BAR memory without a struct page
> - Managing lifetime of BAR memory across multiple drivers
>
> Based on past work, the people in the CC list would be recommended
> participants:
>
> Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
> Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
> Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
> Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>
> Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> Ira Weiny <iweiny@intel.com>
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
> John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
> Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
> Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>
That's a long list, and you're missing
"Thomas Hellström (VMware)" <thomas_os@shipmail.org>
Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
both of whom have been working on related projects (for PFNs without pages).
Hey, you missed me too! ;-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-07 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-07 18:24 [LSF/MM TOPIC] get_user_pages() for PCI BAR Memory Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-07 19:46 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-02-07 20:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-07 20:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-14 10:35 ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-08 13:10 ` Christian König
2020-02-08 13:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-08 16:38 ` Christian König
2020-02-08 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-10 18:39 ` Logan Gunthorpe
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