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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>
Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Chris Browy <cbrowy@avery-design.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>, Jon Masters <jcm@jonmasters.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	daniel.lll@alibaba-inc.com,
	"John Groves (jgroves)" <jgroves@micron.com>,
	"Kelley, Sean V" <sean.v.kelley@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/14] cxl/mem: Add a "RAW" send command
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 13:24:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210201182400.GK197521@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210130002438.1872527-10-ben.widawsky@intel.com>

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 04:24:33PM -0800, Ben Widawsky wrote:
> The CXL memory device send interface will have a number of supported
> commands. The raw command is not such a command. Raw commands allow
> userspace to send a specified opcode to the underlying hardware and
> bypass all driver checks on the command. This is useful for a couple of
> usecases, mainly:
> 1. Undocumented vendor specific hardware commands
> 2. Prototyping new hardware commands not yet supported by the driver

This sounds like a recipe for ..

In case you really really want this may I recommend you do two things:

- Wrap this whole thing with #ifdef
  CONFIG_CXL_DEBUG_THIS_WILL_DESTROY_YOUR_LIFE

 (or something equivalant to make it clear this should never be
  enabled in production kernels).

 - Add a nice big fat printk in dmesg telling the user that they
   are creating a unstable parallel universe that will lead to their
   blood pressure going sky-high, or perhaps something more professional
   sounding.

- Rethink this. Do you really really want to encourage vendors
  to use this raw API instead of them using the proper APIs?

> 
> While this all sounds very powerful it comes with a couple of caveats:
> 1. Bug reports using raw commands will not get the same level of
>    attention as bug reports using supported commands (via taint).
> 2. Supported commands will be rejected by the RAW command.
> 
> With this comes new debugfs knob to allow full access to your toes with
> your weapon of choice.

Problem is that debugfs is no longer "debug" but is enabled in
production kernel.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-01 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-30  0:24 [PATCH 00/14] CXL 2.0 Support Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 01/14] cxl/mem: Introduce a driver for CXL-2.0-Type-3 endpoints Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30 23:51   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 17:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-01 17:34   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-02 17:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-02 18:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 02/14] cxl/mem: Map memory device registers Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30 23:51   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 16:46     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 18:19       ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-02-01 17:36   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-02 18:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-02 18:31     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-03 17:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 03/14] cxl/mem: Find device capabilities Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30 23:51   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 16:53     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 21:51       ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 21:58         ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 22:23           ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 22:28             ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 22:33               ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 22:45                 ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 22:50                   ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 23:09                     ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 23:17                       ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 23:58                         ` David Rientjes
2021-02-02  0:11                           ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-02  0:14                             ` Dan Williams
2021-02-02  1:09                               ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 22:02         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-01 17:41   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-01 17:50     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 18:08       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-02 18:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-02 18:24     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-03 17:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-03 17:23         ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-03 21:23           ` Dan Williams
2021-02-04  7:16             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-04 15:29               ` Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 04/14] cxl/mem: Implement polled mode mailbox Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30 23:51   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 20:00     ` Dan Williams
2021-02-02 22:57       ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-02 23:54         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-03  0:54           ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-02 22:50     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 17:54   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-01 19:13     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 19:28       ` Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <SN6PR08MB46052FE9BC20A747CACD8F50D1B39@SN6PR08MB4605.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
2021-02-04 22:24           ` [EXT] " Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 05/14] cxl/mem: Register CXL memX devices Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:31   ` Dan Williams
2021-01-30 23:52   ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 17:10     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 21:53       ` David Rientjes
2021-02-01 21:55         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-02 18:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 06/14] cxl/mem: Add basic IOCTL interface Ben Widawsky
2021-02-02 18:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-02 18:33     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 07/14] cxl/mem: Add send command Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 18:15   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-02 23:08     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 08/14] taint: add taint for direct hardware access Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 18:18   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-01 18:34     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 19:01       ` Dan Williams
2021-02-02  2:49         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-02 17:46           ` Dan Williams
2021-02-08 22:00   ` Dan Williams
2021-02-08 22:09     ` Kees Cook
2021-02-08 23:05       ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-08 23:36       ` Dan Williams
2021-02-09  1:03         ` Dan Williams
2021-02-09  3:36           ` Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 09/14] cxl/mem: Add a "RAW" send command Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 18:24   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2021-02-01 19:27     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 19:34       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-01 21:20         ` Dan Williams
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 10/14] cxl/mem: Create concept of enabled commands Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 11/14] cxl/mem: Use CEL for enabling commands Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 12/14] cxl/mem: Add set of informational commands Ben Widawsky
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 13/14] cxl/mem: Add limited Get Log command (0401h) Ben Widawsky
2021-02-01 18:28   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-02 23:51     ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-02 23:57       ` Dan Williams
2021-02-03 17:16         ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-03 18:14           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2021-02-03 20:31             ` Dan Williams
2021-02-04 18:55               ` Ben Widawsky
2021-02-04 21:01                 ` Dan Williams
2021-01-30  0:24 ` [PATCH 14/14] MAINTAINERS: Add maintainers of the CXL driver Ben Widawsky

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