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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 11:47:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210930144752.GA67618@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8324d96-c897-b914-16c6-ad0bbb9b13a5@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:34:19PM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:

> > When we add the migration extension this cannot change, so after
> > open_device() the device should be operational.
> 
> if it's waiting for incoming migration blob, it is not running.

It cannot be waiting for a migration blob after open_device, that is
not backwards compatible.

Just prior to open device the vfio pci layer will generate a FLR to
the function so we expect that post open_device has a fresh from reset
fully running device state.

> > The reported state in the migration region should accurately reflect
> > what the device is currently doing. If the device is operational then
> > it must report running, not stopped.
> 
> STOP in migration meaning.

As Alex and I have said several times STOP means the internal state is
not allowed to change.

> > driver will see RESUMING toggle off so it will trigger a
> > de-serialization
> 
> You mean stop serialization ?

No, I mean it will take all the migration data that has been uploaded
through the migration region and de-serialize it into active device
state.

> > driver will see SAVING toggled on so it will serialize the new state
> > (either the pre-copy state or the post-copy state dpending on the
> > running bit)
> 
> lets leave the bits and how you implement the state numbering aside.

You've missed the point. This isn't a FSM. It is a series of three
control bits that we have assigned logical meaning their combinatoins.

The algorithm I gave is a control centric algorithm not a state
centric algorithm and matches the direction Alex thought this was
being designed for.
 
> If you finish resuming you can move to a new state (that we should add) =>
> RESUMED.

It is not a state machine. Once you stop prentending this is
implementing a FSM Alex's position makes perfect sense.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-30 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-22 10:38 [PATCH mlx5-next 0/7] Add mlx5 live migration driver Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 1/7] PCI/IOV: Provide internal VF index Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 21:59   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-23  6:35     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24 13:08       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-25 10:10         ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-25 17:41           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-26  6:36             ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-26 20:23               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-27 11:55                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-27 14:47                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 2/7] vfio: Add an API to check migration state transition validity Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 10:33   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-23 11:17     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:55       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-24  7:44         ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-24  9:37           ` Kirti Wankhede
2021-09-26  9:09           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-26 16:17             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 18:24               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-27 18:29                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2021-09-27 22:46   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-27 23:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 19:19       ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-28 19:35         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-28 20:18           ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 16:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 18:06               ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 18:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 10:57         ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 10:44       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 12:35         ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 13:26           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 13:50             ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 14:36               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 15:17                 ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 15:28                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 16:14                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-29 21:48                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-29 22:44                         ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-30  9:25                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 12:41                             ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29 23:21                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30  9:34                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 14:47                             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-09-30 15:32                               ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 16:24                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-30 16:51                                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-30 17:01                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 3/7] vfio/pci_core: Make the region->release() function optional Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-23 13:57   ` Max Gurtovoy
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 4/7] net/mlx5: Introduce migration bits and structures Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-24  5:48   ` Mark Zhang
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 5/7] net/mlx5: Expose APIs to get/put the mlx5 core device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 6/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Expose migration commands over mlx5 device Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-28 20:22   ` Alex Williamson
2021-09-29  5:36     ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-09-22 10:38 ` [PATCH mlx5-next 7/7] mlx5_vfio_pci: Implement vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Leon Romanovsky

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