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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, saeedm@nvidia.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kuba@kernel.org, leonro@nvidia.com,
	kwankhede@nvidia.com, mgurtovoy@nvidia.com, maorg@nvidia.com,
	ashok.raj@intel.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 14/15] vfio/mlx5: Use its own PCI reset_done error handler
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:48:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220210094811.0f95fbd8.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220209023918.GO4160@nvidia.com>

On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 22:39:18 -0400
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 05:08:01PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > @@ -477,10 +499,34 @@ static int mlx5vf_pci_get_device_state(struct vfio_device *vdev,
> > >  
> > >  	mutex_lock(&mvdev->state_mutex);
> > >  	*curr_state = mvdev->mig_state;
> > > -	mutex_unlock(&mvdev->state_mutex);
> > > +	mlx5vf_state_mutex_unlock(mvdev);
> > >  	return 0;  
> > 
> > I still can't see why it wouldn't be a both fairly trivial to implement
> > and a usability improvement if the unlock wrapper returned -EAGAIN on a
> > deferred reset so we could avoid returning a stale state to the user
> > and a dead fd in the former case.  Thanks,  
> 
> It simply is not useful - again, we always resolve this race that
> should never happen as though the two events happened consecutively,
> which is what would normally happen if we could use a simple mutex. We
> do not need to add any more complexity to deal with this already
> troublesome thing..

So walk me through how this works with QEMU, it's easy to hand-wave
userspace race and move on, but device reset can be triggered by guest
behavior while migration is supposed to be transparent to the guest.
These are essentially asynchronous threads where we're imposing a
synchronization point or lots of double checking in userspace whether
the device actually entered the state we think it did and if the
returned FD is usable.

Specifically, I suspect we can trigger this race if the VM reboots as
we're initiating a migration in the STOP_COPY phase, but that's maybe
less interesting if we expect the VM to be halted before the device
state is stepped.  More interesting might be how a PRE_COPY transition
works relative to asynchronous VM resets triggering device resets.  Are
we serializing all access to reset vs this DEVICE_FEATURE op or are we
resorting to double checking the device state, and how do we plan to
re-initiate migration states if a VM reset occurs during migration?
Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-10 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-07 17:22 [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 00/15] Add mlx5 live migration driver and v2 migration protocol Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 01/15] PCI/IOV: Add pci_iov_vf_id() to get VF index Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Reuse exported virtfn index function call Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Disable SRIOV before PF removal Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 04/15] PCI/IOV: Add pci_iov_get_pf_drvdata() to allow VF reaching the drvdata of a PF Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 05/15] net/mlx5: Expose APIs to get/put the mlx5 core device Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 06/15] net/mlx5: Introduce migration bits and structures Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 07/15] vfio: Have the core code decode the VFIO_DEVICE_FEATURE ioctl Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 08/15] vfio: Define device migration protocol v2 Yishai Hadas
2022-02-09  0:07   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-09  2:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15 10:41       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-15 16:04         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15 23:32           ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-16  1:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16  3:17           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-16 12:14             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-17  2:29               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-15 10:58       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-15 13:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-15  8:04   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-15 15:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16  3:04       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 09/15] vfio: Extend the device migration protocol with RUNNING_P2P Yishai Hadas
2022-02-15 10:18   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-15 15:56     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-16  2:52       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-16 12:11         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 10/15] vfio: Remove migration protocol v1 documentation Yishai Hadas
2022-02-11 11:03   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 11/15] vfio/mlx5: Expose migration commands over mlx5 device Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 12/15] vfio/mlx5: Implement vfio_pci driver for mlx5 devices Yishai Hadas
2022-02-09  0:07   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 13/15] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_core_aer_err_detected() Yishai Hadas
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 14/15] vfio/mlx5: Use its own PCI reset_done error handler Yishai Hadas
2022-02-09  0:08   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-09  2:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-10 16:48       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2022-02-10 17:27         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-07 17:22 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 15/15] vfio: Extend the device migration protocol with PRE_COPY Yishai Hadas
2022-02-17 17:15   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-18  0:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-18  8:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-18 14:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-22  1:43       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-22 15:50         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-23  0:40           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-23  0:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-23  1:46               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-02-18  8:11 ` [PATCH V7 mlx5-next 00/15] Add mlx5 live migration driver and v2 migration protocol Tarun Gupta (SW-GPU)

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