From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
Cc: bhelgaas@google.com, rafael@kernel.org, lenb@kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxarm@huawei.com,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI/ACPI: Decouple the negotiation of ASPM and other PCIe services
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 10:42:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220407154257.GA235990@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220407131602.14727-1-yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
[+cc Rafael]
On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 09:16:02PM +0800, Yicong Yang wrote:
> Currently we regard ASPM as a necessary PCIe service and if it's disabled
> by pcie_aspm=off we cannot enable other services like AER and hotplug.
> However the ASPM is just one of the PCIe services and other services
> mentioned no dependency on this. So this patch decouples the negotiation
> of ASPM and other PCIe services, then we can make use of other services
> in the absence of ASPM.
Why do you want to boot with "pcie_aspm=off"? If we have to use a
PCI-related parameter to boot, something is already wrong, so if
there's a problem that requires ASPM to be disabled, we should fix
that first.
If there's a known hardware or firmware issue with ASPM, we should
quirk it so users don't have to discover this parameter.
> Aaron Sierra tried to fix this originally:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20190702201318.GC128603@google.com/
Yes. My question from that review is still open:
But Rafael added ACPI_PCIE_REQ_SUPPORT with 415e12b23792 ("PCI/ACPI:
Request _OSC control once for each root bridge (v3)") [1], apparently
related to a bug [2]. I assume there was some reason for requiring
all those things together, so I'd really like his comments.
[1] https://git.kernel.org/linus/415e12b23792
[2] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20232
Rafael clearly said in [1] that we need to:
... check if all of the requisite _OSC support bits are set before
calling acpi_pci_osc_control_set() for a given root complex.
We would still need to explain why Rafael thought all these _OSC
support bits were required, but now they're not.
_OSC does not negotiate directly for control of ASPM (though of course
it *does* negotiate for control of the PCIe Capability, which contains
the ASPM control bits), but the PCI Firmware spec, r3.3, sec 4.5.3, has
this comment in a sample _OSC implementation:
// Only allow native hot plug control if the OS supports:
// * ASPM
// * Clock PM
// * MSI/MSI-X
which matches the current ACPI_PCIE_REQ_SUPPORT.
So I think I would approach this by reworking the _OSC negotiation so
we always advertise "OSC_PCI_ASPM_SUPPORT | OSC_PCI_CLOCK_PM_SUPPORT"
if CONFIG_PCIEASPM=y.
Advertising support for ASPM doesn't mean Linux has to actually
*enable* it, so we could make a different mechanism to prevent use of
ASPM if we have a device or platform quirk or we're booting with
"pcie_aspm=off".
> Signed-off-by: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>
> ---
> drivers/acpi/pci_root.c | 2 --
> 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/acpi/pci_root.c b/drivers/acpi/pci_root.c
> index 6f9e75d14808..16fa7c5a11ad 100644
> --- a/drivers/acpi/pci_root.c
> +++ b/drivers/acpi/pci_root.c
> @@ -37,8 +37,6 @@ static int acpi_pci_root_scan_dependent(struct acpi_device *adev)
> }
>
> #define ACPI_PCIE_REQ_SUPPORT (OSC_PCI_EXT_CONFIG_SUPPORT \
> - | OSC_PCI_ASPM_SUPPORT \
> - | OSC_PCI_CLOCK_PM_SUPPORT \
> | OSC_PCI_MSI_SUPPORT)
>
> static const struct acpi_device_id root_device_ids[] = {
> --
> 2.24.0
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-07 15:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-07 13:16 [PATCH] PCI/ACPI: Decouple the negotiation of ASPM and other PCIe services Yicong Yang
2022-04-07 15:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2022-04-07 16:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-04-11 9:30 ` Yicong Yang
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