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From: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
Cc: "Serge Semin" <Sergey.Semin@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Jingoo Han" <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	"Gustavo Pimentel" <gustavo.pimentel@synopsys.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Alexey Malahov" <Alexey.Malahov@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Pavel Parkhomenko" <Pavel.Parkhomenko@baikalelectronics.ru>,
	"Frank Li" <Frank.Li@nxp.com>, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/17] PCI: dwc: Introduce dma-ranges property support for RC-host
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 21:21:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220520182110.z7boelenloaxzvwo@mobilestation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220519152116.GA210475@thinkpad>

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 08:51:16PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 01:52:38PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.c b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.c
> > > > > > > > index 747e252c09e6..33718ed6c511 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/pci/controller/dwc/pcie-designware.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -397,8 +397,61 @@ static inline void dw_pcie_writel_atu_ib(struct dw_pcie *pci, u32 index, u32 reg
> > > > > > > >  	dw_pcie_writel_atu(pci, PCIE_ATU_REGION_DIR_IB, index, reg, val);
> > > > > > > >  }
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > -int dw_pcie_prog_inbound_atu(struct dw_pcie *pci, u8 func_no, int index,
> > > > > > > > -			     int type, u64 cpu_addr, u8 bar)
> > > > > > > > +int dw_pcie_prog_inbound_atu(struct dw_pcie *pci, int index, int type,
> > > > > > > > +			     u64 cpu_addr, u64 pci_addr, u64 size)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > +	u64 limit_addr = pci_addr + size - 1;
> > > > > > > > +	u32 retries, val;
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +	if ((limit_addr & ~pci->region_limit) != (pci_addr & ~pci->region_limit) ||
> > > > > > > > +	    !IS_ALIGNED(cpu_addr, pci->region_align) ||
> > > > > > > > +	    !IS_ALIGNED(pci_addr, pci->region_align) ||
> > > > > > > > +	    !IS_ALIGNED(size, pci->region_align) ||
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Why do you want the size to be aligned? What if I want to transfer a small size
> > > > > > > buffer?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Same question applies to outbound programming as well.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You can't program a region with the unaligned size by the DW PCIe CSRs
> > > > > > design. The limit address lower bits are read-only and fixed with
> > > > > > one's in accordance with the IP-core synthesize parameter
> > > > > > CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE. So the mapping is always performed in the
> > > > > > CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE chunks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > IATU_LIMIT_ADDR_OFF_{IN,OUT}BOUND.LIMIT_ADDR_HW = 
> > > > > > {(CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE == 65536) ? "0xffff" :
> > > > > >  (CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE == 32768) ? "0x7fff" :
> > > > > >  (CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE == 16384) ? "0x3fff" :
> > > > > >  (CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE == 8192)  ? "0x1fff" :
> > > > > >  (CX_ATU_MIN_REGION_SIZE == 4096)  ? "0xfff" : "0xffff"}
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Right. Even though the minimum size that could be mapped is 4k, I could still
> > > > > use that 4k size for mapping small buffers also. So you should not be erroring
> > > > > out here if the size is not aligned. 
> > > > 
> > > > Why would you need to do that? Even if you do and the operation
> > > > doesn't return an error (or at least splash the syslog with a
> > > > warning), the hardware would expand the mapping up to the aligned size
> > > > anyway. Such implicit behavior would have given your software an
> > > > impression that the mapping was performed in the way you asked with
> > > > the size you specified so the upper part of the unaligned range is
> > > > free to be used for something else. If the range is accessed, instead
> > > > of a bus error or silent IO termination it may cause unexpected result
> > > > of creating random PCIe bus traffic. So I'd rather have the
> > > > code/platform setup fixed right from the start instead of waiting for
> > > > the hard to find bug cause.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > The application I'm working on is MHI bus. As per the design, it needs to copy
> > > 16byte data to ring buffers in the host memory. If I use iATU, then I
> > > cannot copy those small data with the size alignment.
> > 
> > First of all I don't see any driver using the DW PCIe iATU mapping
> > functions directly. They are only utilized in the framework of the
> > "ranges" and "dma-ranges" DT properties.
> 

> Not true. The PCI_EPF_TEST and PCI_EPF_NTB applications use iATU mpping function
> through EPC ops.
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/endpoint/functions/pci-epf-test.c#n250
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/pci/endpoint/pci-epc-core.c#n476
> 
> Now that I've referred, we need to check if these drivers still work on top of
> your patches. These are not supported on my platform, so perhaps Frank can
> test?

Wow, you are right. I've missed the epf drivers completely. They don't
take the buffer size alignment into account. This patch and the
range-related patch most likely will regress both of these drivers.(
Alas they can't be fixed that easily.

1) drivers/pci/endpoint/functions/pci-epf-test.c retrieves size from
the user-space by means of an ioctl implemented in the
drivers/misc/pci_endpoint_test.c char-device driver (see what is
written at the PCI_ENDPOINT_TEST_SIZE offset). It doesn't make
sure that aside with the base address the size needs to be also
aligned.

2) drivers/pci/endpoint/functions/pci-epf-ntb.c uses the size based on
the NTB entity. It's either Door-Bell entry or a Memory Window. If the
Door-bell/MSI-X part can be more or less easily fixed, the MW-part
can't because the PCIe-bus part of the EP-function implementation
doesn't provide such information. After fixing that I would have also
needed to fix the drivers/ntb/hw/epf/ntb_hw_epf.c driver so the
callback method mw_get_align() would return the size alignment
constraint.

So to speak without corresponding HW at hand I won't be able to
successfully fix them.

> 
> > If the application you are
> > referring to your private code, then it can't be a justification.
> 
> I should have mentioned it, but my application is not private. It is partly
> available in linux-next:
> 
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/tree/drivers/bus/mhi/ep/ring.c#n47
> https://git.linaro.org/landing-teams/working/qualcomm/kernel.git/tree/drivers/pci/endpoint/functions/pci-epf-mhi.c?h=tracking-qcomlt-sdx55-drivers#n121
> 
> > Secondly if your application uses them then what about just extending
> > the mapping range size while still access the lowest 15 bytes only? In
> > that case you would create a more comprehensive software which would
> > be aware of the hardware constraints.
> > 
> 

> Hmm... I'm already doing a similar hack for getting the aligned address due to
> iATU limitation, but I think doing the same for size should also work.
> 
> Thinking again, I agree with the alignment check. Thanks for the explanations.
> But let's make sure the existing EPF drivers still work.

Don't bother with re-developing our code. Since I can't fix the
denoted client drivers we have no choice but to do as you say and drop
the size alignment check. Thanks for pointing this out.

-Sergey

> 
> Thanks,
> Mani
> 
> > > 
> > > > > I know that it is a waste of memory but that doesn't mean that it won't work.
> > > > 
> > > > The correct statement in this case would be "it won't work in a way
> > > > you expected, but with the implicit side effect applied to the memory
> > > > above the requested one."
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Agree but that would only happen when the application does out of bound
> > > access and in that case the issue is with the application.
> > 
> > Not only in that case, but anyway how would such application be aware
> > of the out of bounds access? Returning an error in case if the
> > requested mapping can't be performed with the specified parameters is
> > a possible solution. So the application would be aware of the hardware
> > constraints and be sure it perceives them right. Otherwise the
> > consequences of the out of bounds access would be very unexpected
> > since the mapping is performed only for the small buffer.
> > 
> > -Sergey
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mani
> > > 
> > > > -Sergey
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Mani
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -Sergey
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Mani
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்
> 
> -- 
> மணிவண்ணன் சதாசிவம்

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-03 21:46 [PATCH v2 00/17] PCI: dwc: Add dma-ranges/YAML-schema/Baikal-T1 support Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] dt-bindings: PCI: dwc: Define common and native DT bindings Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:11   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-19 10:26     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] dt-bindings: PCI: dwc: Add Baikal-T1 PCIe Root Port bindings Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] PCI: dwc: Add more verbose link-up message Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:18   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] PCI: dwc: Detect iATU settings after getting "addr_space" resource Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:21   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] PCI: dwc: Convert to using native IP-core versions representation Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:30   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-20  9:29     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-20 15:06       ` Rob Herring
2022-05-20 16:08         ` Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:31   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] PCI: dwc: Add IP-core version detection procedure Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:32   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] PCI: dwc: Introduce Synopsys IP-core versions/types interface Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:33   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] PCI: dwc: Add host de-initialization callback Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:48   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-20 10:20     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] PCI: dwc: Drop inbound iATU types enumeration - dw_pcie_as_type Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] PCI: dwc: Drop iATU regions enumeration - dw_pcie_region_type Serge Semin
2022-05-16 20:49   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] PCI: dwc: Simplify in/outbound iATU setup methods Serge Semin
2022-05-12 14:01   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2022-05-12 19:22     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] PCI: dwc: Add iATU regions size detection procedure Serge Semin
2022-05-16 21:01   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] PCI: dwc: Verify in/out regions against iATU constraints Serge Semin
2022-05-16 21:07   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] PCI: dwc: Check iATU in/outbound ranges setup methods status Serge Semin
2022-05-16 21:35   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-20 10:36     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] PCI: dwc: Introduce dma-ranges property support for RC-host Serge Semin
2022-05-12 13:57   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2022-05-12 19:41     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-17 17:20       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2022-05-18 19:26         ` Serge Semin
2022-05-19  7:40           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2022-05-19 10:52             ` Serge Semin
2022-05-19 15:21               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2022-05-20 18:21                 ` Serge Semin [this message]
2022-05-16 21:42   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] PCI: dwc: Introduce generic platform clocks and resets sets Serge Semin
2022-05-16 22:29   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-20 16:02     ` Serge Semin
2022-05-03 21:46 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] PCI: dwc: Add Baikal-T1 PCIe controller support Serge Semin

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