From: "Clément Léger" <clement.leger@bootlin.com>
To: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
Cc: Lizhi Hou <lizhi.hou@amd.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, robh@kernel.org,
helgaas@kernel.org, max.zhen@amd.com, sonal.santan@amd.com,
larry.liu@amd.com, brian.xu@amd.com,
stefano.stabellini@xilinx.com, trix@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] Generate device tree node for pci devicesgain,
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 10:02:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221013100245.14c509ec@fixe.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d571d21-507d-fcc5-bf58-d02f958de28a@gmail.com>
Le Thu, 13 Oct 2022 01:05:26 -0500,
Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > This would also require two different descriptions of the same card
> > (for ACPI and device-tree) and would require the final user to create a
> > specific overlay for its device based on the PCI slots the card is
> > plugged in.
>
> One of the many missing pieces of overlay support. There have been several
> discussion of how to describe a "socket" in a device tree that a device
> could be plugged into, where a single device tree subtree .dtb could be
> relocated to one or more different socket locations. Thus in this
> case a single overlay could be relocated to various PCI slots.
>
> I don't expect be getting involved in any future efforts around sockets
> (see my following comment for why).
>
> >
> > The solution we proposed (Lizhi and I) allows to overcome these
> > problems and is way easier to use. Fixing the potential bugs that might
> > exists in the overlay layer seems a way better idea that just pushing
>
> It is not potential bugs. The current run time overlay implementation is
> proof of concept quality and completeness. It is not production ready.
>
> I got an opportunity for early retirement a couple of weeks ago. My first
> inclination was to continue the same level of device tree maintainership,
> but I am quickly realizing that there are other activities that I would
> like to devote my time and energy to. I will continue to support Rob with
> minor patch reviews and testing, and potentially finishing up some
> improvements to unittest. On the other hand, bringing run time overlay
> support to product quality would be a major investment of my time that I
> am not willing to continue.
Hi Frank,
This explains your position on the overlay support and I can
certainly understand it ! Regarding the fact that it would enter
"production", the devices we are talking about are not really
widespread yet? This would be a good opportunity to gather feedback
early and improve the support gradually. We could probably even be able
to support improvements in the overlay code if needed I guess.
Thanks for your honest answer,
Clément
>
> So I am leaving major overlay issues in the capable hands of Rob. I may
> chime in from time to time when I can do so without requiring too much of
> my time.
>
> -Frank
>
> > that away to the bootloader level. Moreover, this kind of devices is
> > likely to be more common with the increasing popularity of FPGA and a
> > proper solution must be found.
> >
--
Clément Léger,
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineer at Bootlin
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-13 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-29 21:43 [PATCH RFC 0/2] Generate device tree node for pci devices Lizhi Hou
2022-08-29 21:43 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] of: dynamic: add of_node_alloc() Lizhi Hou
2022-09-16 23:15 ` Frank Rowand
2022-08-29 21:43 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] pci: create device tree node for selected devices Lizhi Hou
2022-09-02 18:54 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-12 6:33 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-13 7:03 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-16 23:20 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-13 5:49 ` Lizhi Hou
2022-09-02 20:43 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Generate device tree node for pci devices Bjorn Helgaas
2022-09-09 23:06 ` Lizhi Hou
2022-09-13 7:00 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-13 17:10 ` Lizhi Hou
2022-09-13 17:41 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-13 21:02 ` Lizhi Hou
2022-09-17 2:23 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-17 18:36 ` Tom Rix
2022-09-20 3:12 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-26 3:03 ` Sonal Santan
2022-10-14 21:25 ` Frank Rowand
2022-10-10 8:42 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Generate device tree node for pci devicesgain, Clément Léger
2022-10-13 6:05 ` Frank Rowand
2022-10-13 8:02 ` Clément Léger [this message]
2022-10-13 17:28 ` Frank Rowand
2022-10-14 17:33 ` Rob Herring
2022-10-14 18:52 ` Frank Rowand
2022-10-17 7:18 ` Clément Léger
2022-10-26 21:20 ` Sonal Santan
2022-09-14 13:35 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] Generate device tree node for pci devices Jeremi Piotrowski
2022-09-14 18:08 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-16 23:15 ` Frank Rowand
2022-09-26 22:44 ` Rob Herring
2022-09-30 19:29 ` Sonal Santan
2022-10-06 15:10 ` Rob Herring
2022-10-07 22:45 ` Sonal Santan
2022-10-10 8:58 ` Clément Léger
2022-10-13 6:08 ` Frank Rowand
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