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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "Pali Rohár" <pali@kernel.org>,
	vtolkm@gmail.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"Marek Behún" <marek.behun@nic.cz>,
	"Jason Cooper" <jason@lakedaemon.net>
Subject: Re: PCI trouble on mvebu (Turris Omnia)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 00:15:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dr8oc7m.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201029225409.2accead3@windsurf.home>

Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 14:30:22 -0500
> Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> We could quirk these NICs to avoid the retrain, but since aardvark and
>> mvebu have no obvious connection and WLE200/WLE900 and MT76 have no
>> obvious connection, I doubt there's a simple hardware defect that
>> explains all these.  
>
> aardvark and mvebu have one very strong connection: they are the only
> two drivers making use of the PCI Bridge emulation logic in
> drivers/pci/pci-bridge-emul.c:
>
> drivers/pci$ git grep pci-bridge-emul
> akefile:obj-$(CONFIG_PCI_BRIDGE_EMUL)  += pci-bridge-emul.o
> controller/pci-aardvark.c:#include "../pci-bridge-emul.h"
> controller/pci-mvebu.c:#include "../pci-bridge-emul.h"
> pci-bridge-emul.c:#include "pci-bridge-emul.h"
>
> I haven't read the whole thread, but it is important to keep in mind
> that on those two platforms, the PCI Bridge seen by Linux is *not* a
> real HW bridge. It is faked by the the pci-bridge-emul code. So if this
> code has defects/bugs in how it emulates a PCI Bridge behavior, you
> might see weird things.

Ohh, that's interesting. Why does it need to emulate it?

And could this cause things weird interactions like what I'm seeing,
where a somewhat buggy device in slot 2 affects the ability to retrain
the link also in slot 1, but only if there's no device in slot 3?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-29 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-27 15:43 PCI trouble on mvebu (Turris Omnia) Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-27 17:20 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-10-27 17:44   ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-27 18:59     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-27 20:20       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-27 21:22         ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-27 21:31           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-27 22:01             ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-27 22:12               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-27 18:56   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-28 13:36     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-28 14:42       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-10-28 15:08         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-28 16:40           ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-28 23:16             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-10-29 10:09               ` Pali Rohár
2020-10-29 10:56                 ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-29 11:12                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-29 19:30                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-10-29 19:56                     ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-29 19:57                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-29 21:55                       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2020-10-29 20:18                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-29 22:09                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-29 20:58                     ` Marek Behun
2020-10-30 10:08                       ` Pali Rohár
2020-10-30 10:45                         ` Marek Behun
2020-10-29 21:54                     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2020-10-29 23:15                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-10-30  8:23                         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2020-10-30 10:15                         ` Pali Rohár
2020-10-29 10:41               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-29 11:18                 ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-30 11:23               ` Pali Rohár
2020-10-30 13:02                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-30 14:23                   ` Pali Rohár
2020-10-30 14:54                     ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-10-31 12:49                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-11-02 15:24                         ` Pali Rohár
2020-11-02 15:54                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-11-02 16:18                             ` ™֟☻̭҇ Ѽ ҉ ®
2020-11-02 16:33                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-03-15 19:58                             ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-16  9:25                               ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-18 22:43                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-03-18 23:16                                   ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-26 12:50                                     ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-26 15:25                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-03-26 15:34                                         ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-26 16:54                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-03-26 17:11                                             ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-26 17:51                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-03-29 17:09                                                 ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-31 14:02                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-03-31 16:15                                                     ` Pali Rohár
2021-03-31 16:53                                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-29  1:21             ` Marek Behun
2020-10-29 15:12           ` Rob Herring
2020-10-27 18:03 ` Marek Behun
2020-10-27 19:00   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-27 20:19     ` Marek Behun
2020-10-27 20:49       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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