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From: Kit Chow <kchow@gigaio.com>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	Eric Pilmore <epilmore@gigaio.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: IOAT DMA w/IOMMU
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 12:47:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95e53520-b05f-4be4-e694-463d717453a8@gigaio.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b54899a8-a144-e8e0-9880-1800c4657b95@deltatee.com>


On 08/09/2018 12:35 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On 09/08/18 12:51 PM, Eric Pilmore wrote:
>>>> Was wondering if anybody here has used IOAT DMA engines with an
>>>> IOMMU turned on (Xeon based system)? My specific question is really
>>>> whether it is possible to DMA (w/IOAT) to a PCI BAR address as the
>>>> destination without having to map that address to the IOVA space of
>>>> the DMA engine first (assuming the IOMMU is on)?
> I haven't tested this scenario but my guess would be that IOAT would
> indeed go through the IOMMU and the PCI BAR address would need to be
> properly mapped into the IOAT's IOVA. The fact that you see DMAR errors
> is probably a good indication that this is the case. I really don't know
> why you'd want to DMA something without mapping it.
I have experimented with changing ntb_async_tx_submit to dma_map the PCI 
BAR
address. With this, I get a different DMAR error:

DMAR: [DMA Write] Request device [07:00.4] fault addr ffd00000
[fault reason 12] non-zero reserved fields in PTE

Kit
>>> So is this a peer-to-peer DMA scenario?  You mention DMA, which would
>>> be a transaction initiated by a PCI device, to a PCI BAR address, so
>>> it doesn't sound like system memory is involved.
>> No, not peer-to-peer.  This is from system memory (e.g. SKB buffer which
>> has had an IOMMU mapping created) to a PCI BAR address.
> It's definitely peer-to-peer in the case where you are using a DMA
> engine in the PCI tree. You have the DMA PCI device sending TLPs
> directly to the PCI BAR device. So, if everything is done right, the
> TLPs will avoid the root complex completely. (Though, ACS settings could
> also prevent this from working and you'd either get similar DMAR errors
> or they'd disappear into a black hole).
>
> When using the IOAT, it is part of the CPU so I wouldn't say it's really
> peer-to-peer. But an argument could be made that it is. Though, this is
> exactly what the existing ntb_transport is doing: DMAing from system
> memory to a PCI BAR and vice versa using IOAT.
>
> Logan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-09 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-09 18:14 IOAT DMA w/IOMMU Eric Pilmore
2018-08-09 18:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-09 18:51   ` Eric Pilmore
2018-08-09 19:35     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-09 19:47       ` Kit Chow [this message]
2018-08-09 20:11         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-09 20:57           ` Kit Chow
2018-08-09 21:11             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-09 21:47               ` Kit Chow
2018-08-09 22:40                 ` Jiang, Dave
2018-08-09 22:48                   ` Kit Chow
2018-08-09 22:50                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-09 23:00                       ` Kit Chow
2018-08-10 16:02                         ` Kit Chow
2018-08-10 16:23                           ` Kit Chow
2018-08-10 16:24                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-10 16:24                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-10 16:31                             ` Dave Jiang
2018-08-10 16:33                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-10 17:01                                 ` Dave Jiang
2018-08-10 17:15                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-10 17:46                                     ` Dave Jiang
2018-08-11  0:53                                       ` Kit Chow
2018-08-11  2:10                                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-13 14:23                                           ` Kit Chow
2018-08-13 14:59                                             ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-13 15:21                                               ` Kit Chow
2018-08-13 23:30                                                 ` Kit Chow
2018-08-13 23:39                                                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-13 23:48                                                     ` Kit Chow
2018-08-13 23:50                                                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-14 13:47                                                         ` Kit Chow
2018-08-14 14:03                                                         ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-13 23:36                                                 ` Kit Chow
2018-08-09 21:31       ` Eric Pilmore
2018-08-09 21:36         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-16 17:16           ` Kit Chow
2018-08-16 17:21             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-16 18:53               ` Kit Chow
2018-08-16 18:56                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-21 23:18                   ` Eric Pilmore
2018-08-21 23:20                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-21 23:28                       ` Eric Pilmore
2018-08-21 23:35                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-21 23:45                           ` Eric Pilmore
2018-08-21 23:53                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-08-21 23:59                               ` Eric Pilmore
2018-08-21 23:30                       ` Eric Pilmore

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