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From: Ethan Zhao <xerces.zhao@gmail.com>
To: "Kuppuswamy,
	Sathyanarayanan"  <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.nkuppuswamy@gmail.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Sinan Kaya <okaya@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] PCI/ERR: Split the fatal and non-fatal error recovery handling
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:03:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKF3qh3skCfHLZ5-y93KXeG7GcmJsekVvEO5DpoB-+t-qEW_qQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb94df0b-4cb9-eb49-576a-87ac43fcfdfb@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:53 PM Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/14/20 10:05 PM, Ethan Zhao wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 11:04 AM Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
> > <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/14/20 6:58 PM, Ethan Zhao wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:06 AM Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
> >>> <sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/14/20 8:07 AM, Ethan Zhao wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 5:00 PM Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
> >>>>> <sathyanarayanan.nkuppuswamy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Commit bdb5ac85777d ("PCI/ERR: Handle fatal error recovery")
> >>>>>> merged fatal and non-fatal error recovery paths, and also made
> >>>>>> recovery code depend on hotplug handler for "remove affected
> >>>>>> device + rescan" support. But this change also complicated the
> >>>>>> error recovery path and which in turn led to the following
> >>>>>> issues.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. We depend on hotplug handler for removing the affected
> >>>>>> devices/drivers on DLLSC LINK down event (on DPC event
> >>>>>> trigger) and DPC handler for handling the error recovery. Since
> >>>>>> both handlers operate on same set of affected devices, it leads
> >>>>>> to race condition, which in turn leads to  NULL pointer
> >>>>>> exceptions or error recovery failures.You can find more details
> >>>>>> about this issue in following link.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20201007113158.48933-1-haifeng.zhao@intel.com/T/#t
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. For non-hotplug capable devices fatal (DPC) error recovery
> >>>>>> is currently broken. Current fatal error recovery implementation
> >>>>>> relies on PCIe hotplug (pciehp) handler for detaching and
> >>>>>> re-enumerating the affected devices/drivers. So when dealing with
> >>>>>> non-hotplug capable devices, recovery code does not restore the state
> >>>>>> of the affected devices correctly. You can find more details about
> >>>>>> this issue in the following links.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20200527083130.4137-1-Zhiqiang.Hou@nxp.com/
> >>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/12115.1588207324@famine/
> >>>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/0e6f89cd6b9e4a72293cc90fafe93487d7c2d295.1585000084.git.sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In order to fix the above two issues, we should stop relying on hotplug
> >>>>>      Yes, it doesn't rely on hotplug handler to remove and rescan the device,
> >>>>> but it couldn't prevent hotplug drivers from doing another replicated
> >>>>> removal/rescanning.
> >>>>> it doesn't make sense to leave another useless removal/rescanning there.
> >>>>> Maybe that's why these two paths were merged to one and made it rely on
> >>>>> hotplug.
> >>>> No, as per PCIe spec, hotplug and DPC has no functional dependency. Hence
> >>>> depending on it to handle some of its recovery function is in-correct and
> >>>> would lead to issues in non-hotplug capable platforms (which is true
> >>>> currently).
> >>>>>
> >>
>
> >
> >>>    Though pciehp is not so hot/scalable and performance critical, but there
> >>>    is per cpu thread to handle hot-plug operation. synchronize all threads
> >>>    make them walk backwards for scalability.
> >> DPC events does not happen in high frequency. So I don't think we should
> >   It's holding global lock, once malfunction happens to one device and
> > it's driver,
> > the whole system, everyone holds it, would be blocked to work.
> >> worry about the performance here. Even hotplug handler will hold this lock
> >> when adding/removing the devices. So adding/removing devices is a serialized
> > You don't worry about performance, but if there is a requirement needs
> > more scalable
> > and reliable hotplug, the effect will be much harder. what to do then ? choose
> > another OS ?
> As I have mentioned, all device creation/removal in PCI core code is already
> protected by this lock (including hotplug code).  So the multidomain performance
> impact you mentioned should exist even now. All I am doing is, using the
> same lock for protecting device removal/rescan in error recovery code.
>
> drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:477: pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:567: pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/xen-pcifront.c:1064:                pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/rpaphp_core.c:498:          pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/rpaphp_core.c:520:  pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/s390_pci_hpc.c:70:  pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/shpchp_pci.c:31:    pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/shpchp_pci.c:73:    pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/pciehp_pci.c:39:    pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/pciehp_pci.c:96:    pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp_glue.c:762:         pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp_glue.c:787: pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp_glue.c:975: pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp_glue.c:1026:        pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/cpqphp_pci.c:75:    pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/cpqphp_pci.c:120:   pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/rpadlpar_core.c:361:        pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/pnv_php.c:513:                      pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/pnv_php.c:582:      pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/ibmphp_core.c:668:  pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/ibmphp_core.c:738:  pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/cpci_hotplug_pci.c:245:     pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/hotplug/cpci_hotplug_pci.c:298:     pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c:1866:       pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c:2135:               pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c:2313:               pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/controller/pci-hyperv.c:3300:               pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/controller/pci-host-common.c:91:    pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/remove.c:123:       pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c:410:            pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c:444:            pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c:479:            pci_lock_rescan_remove();
> drivers/pci/probe.c:3231:void pci_lock_rescan_remove(void)
> drivers/pci/probe.c:3235:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pci_lock_rescan_remove);
The existing fact isn't a good justification to use it and make things worse,
vice versa ---use it in more places and "fix" something.
The same logic as PCIe spec doesn't mention DPC should rely on hotplug,
but it doesn't mean that's correct or incorrect.

Thanks,
 Ethan
>
> > To be honest, I don't like the global lock/ pci_lock_rescan_remove().
> >
> > BTW, I didn't try the FATAL errors brute force injection on your
> > patch, duplicated
> > removal will work naturally because it was removed ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ethan
> >> operation.
> >>>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> 2.17.1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
> >>>> Linux Kernel Developer
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
> >> Linux Kernel Developer
>
> --
> Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
> Linux Kernel Developer

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-15 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-14  8:18 [PATCH v6 1/2] PCI/ERR: Call pci_bus_reset() before calling ->slot_reset() callback Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2020-10-14  8:18 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] PCI/ERR: Split the fatal and non-fatal error recovery handling Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
2020-10-14 15:07   ` Ethan Zhao
2020-10-14 17:06     ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-10-15  1:58       ` Ethan Zhao
2020-10-15  3:04         ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-10-15  5:05           ` Ethan Zhao
2020-10-15  5:53             ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-10-15 14:03               ` Ethan Zhao [this message]
2020-10-15  6:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-15 13:55   ` Ethan Zhao
2020-10-15 20:12     ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan

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