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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy Natarajan 
	<sathyanarayanan.nkuppuswamy@gmail.com>
Cc: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Linux PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	knsathya@kernel.org, Sinan Kaya <okaya@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] PCI: pciehp: Skip DLLSC handling if DPC is triggered
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 10:45:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4gfBTuEj494aeg0opeL=PSbk_Cs16fX7A-cLvSV6EZg-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC41dw8sX4T-FrwBju2H3TbjDhJMLGw_KHqs+20qzvKU1b5QTA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:20 AM Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy Natarajan
<sathyanarayanan.nkuppuswamy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 9:31 AM Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 10:31 PM Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 10:08:31PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:14 PM Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 07:32:08PM -0800, sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com wrote:
> > > > > > +     if ((events == PCI_EXP_SLTSTA_DLLSC) && is_dpc_reset_active(pdev)) {
> > > > > > +             ctrl_info(ctrl, "Slot(%s): DLLSC event(DPC), skipped\n",
> > > > > > +                       slot_name(ctrl));
> > > > > > +             ret = IRQ_HANDLED;
> > > > > > +             goto out;
> > > > > > +     }
> > > > >
> > > > > Two problems here:
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) If recovery fails, the link will *remain* down, so there'll be
> > > > >     no Link Up event.  You've filtered the Link Down event, thus the
> > > > >     slot will remain in ON_STATE even though the device in the slot is
> > > > >     no longer accessible.  That's not good, the slot should be brought
> > > > >     down in this case.
> > > >
> > > > Can you elaborate on why that is "not good" from the end user
> > > > perspective? From a driver perspective the device driver context is
> > > > lost and the card needs servicing. The service event starts a new
> > > > cycle of slot-attention being triggered and that syncs the slot-down
> > > > state at that time.
> > >
> > > All of pciehp's code assumes that if the link is down, the slot must be
> > > off.  A slot which is in ON_STATE for a prolonged period of time even
> > > though the link is down is an oddity the code doesn't account for.
> > >
> > > If the link goes down, the slot should be brought into OFF_STATE.
> > > (It's okay though to delay bringdown until DPC recovery has completed
> > > unsuccessfully, which is what the patch I'm proposing does.)
> > >
> > > I don't understand what you mean by "service event".  Someone unplugging
> > > and replugging the NVMe drive?
> >
> > Yes, service meaning a technician physically removes the card.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > (2) If recovery succeeds, there's a race where pciehp may call
> > > > >     is_dpc_reset_active() *after* dpc_reset_link() has finished.
> > > > >     So both the DPC Trigger Status bit as well as pdev->dpc_reset_active
> > > > >     will be cleared.  Thus, the Link Up event is not filtered by pciehp
> > > > >     and the slot is brought down and back up even though DPC recovery
> > > > >     was succesful, which seems undesirable.
> > > >
> > > > The hotplug driver never saw the Link Down, so what does it do when
> > > > the slot transitions from Link Up to Link Up? Do you mean the Link
> > > > Down might fire after the dpc recovery has completed if the hotplug
> > > > notification was delayed?
> > >
> > > If the Link Down is filtered and the Link Up is not, pciehp will
> > > bring down the slot and then bring it back up.  That's because pciehp
> > > can't really tell whether a DLLSC event is Link Up or Link Down.
> > >
> > > It just knows that the link was previously up, is now up again,
> > > but must have been down intermittently, so transactions to the
> > > device in the slot may have been lost and the slot is therefore
> > > brought down for safety.  Because the link is up, it is then
> > > brought back up.
> >
> > I wonder why we're not seeing that effect in testing?
>
> In our test case, there is a good chance that the LINK UP event is also
> filtered. We change the dpc_reset_active status only after we verify
> the link is up. So if hotplug handler handles the LINK UP event before
> we change the status of dpc_reset_active, then it will not lead to the
> issue mentioned by Lukas.
>

Ah, ok, we're missing a flush of the hotplug event handler after the
link is up to make sure the hotplug handler does not see the Link Up.
I'm not immediately seeing how the new proposal ensures that there is
no Link Up event still in flight after DPC completes its work.
Wouldn't it be required to throw away Link Up to Link Up transitions?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-17 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-13  3:32 [PATCH v2 1/1] PCI: pciehp: Skip DLLSC handling if DPC is triggered sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy
2021-03-13  3:35 ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2021-03-17  4:13 ` Lukas Wunner
2021-03-17  5:08   ` Dan Williams
2021-03-17  5:31     ` Lukas Wunner
2021-03-17 16:31       ` Dan Williams
2021-03-17 17:19         ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy Natarajan
2021-03-17 17:45           ` Dan Williams [this message]
2021-03-17 17:54             ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy Natarajan
2021-03-17 19:01               ` Lukas Wunner
2021-03-17 20:02                 ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2021-03-18 15:35                   ` Sinan Kaya
2021-03-28  9:53                   ` Lukas Wunner
2021-03-17 19:09             ` Lukas Wunner
2021-03-17 19:22               ` Raj, Ashok
2021-03-17 19:40                 ` Lukas Wunner
2021-03-28  5:49   ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2021-03-28  9:07     ` Lukas Wunner

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