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From: "Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]" <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>
To: "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	"Huang, Ray" <Ray.Huang@amd.com>,
	"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	"Zhu, Changfeng" <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as broken
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 08:23:09 +0000	[thread overview]
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Applied the patch as in attachment. Verified that ATS for GPU-Device had been disabled. See attachment "dmesg_ATS.log".

Was running that build over night successfully.

-----Original Message-----
From: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS] 
Sent: Montag, 7. Dezember 2020 05:53
To: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as broken

Hi Alex,

I believe in the patch file, this
+		    (pdev->subsystem_device == 0x0c19 ||
+		     pdev->subsystem_device == 0x0c10))

Has to be changed to:
+		    (pdev->subsystem_device == 0xce19 ||
+		     pdev->subsystem_device == 0xcc10))

Because our SSIDs are "ea50:ce19" and "ea50:cc10" respectively and another one would "ea50:cc08". 

I will apply that patch and feedback the results soon plus the patch file that I actually had applied.


-----Original Message-----
From: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>
Sent: Montag, 30. November 2020 19:36
To: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS] <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>; Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as broken

[AMD Public Use]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS] <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 4:24 AM
> To: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; Huang, Ray 
> <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, 
> Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as 
> broken
> 
> Alex,
> 
> This is pretty much the same patch as what I have received from Joerg 
> previously, except that it is tied to the particular Emerson platform 
> and its derivatives (listed with Subsystem IDs).

Right.  As per my original point, I don't want to disable ATS on all Picasso chips because doing so would break GPU compute on them, so I'd like to apply this quirk as narrowly as possible.

> 
> Below patch was what Joerg provided me and I successfully tested.
> 
> This diff to the kernel should do that:
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/quirks.c b/drivers/pci/quirks.c index 
> f70692ac79c5..3911b0ec57ba 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> @@ -5176,6 +5176,8 @@ DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI,
> 0x6900, quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
> DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x7312, 
> quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
>  /* AMD Navi14 dGPU */
>  DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x7340, 
> quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
> +/* AMD Raven platform iGPU */
> +DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x15d8, 
> +quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
>  #endif /* CONFIG_PCI_ATS */
> 
>  /* Freescale PCIe doesn't support MSI in RC mode */
> 
> So far I have seen this issue on two instances of this chip, but I 
> must admit that I did test only two of them to this extent, so I guess 
> it is not a bad chip in particular, but the chips we use are from the 
> same production lot, so it might be a systematical problem of that production lot?
> 
> UEFI-Setup shows:
> Processor Family: 17h
> Procossor Model: 20h - 2Fh
> CPUID: 00820F01
> Microcode Patch Level: 8200103
> 
> Looking at the chip-die I found that this is a fully qualified IP 
> Silicon (according to Ryzen Embedded R1000 SOC Interlock).
> YE1305C9T20FG
> BI2015SUY
> 9JB6496P00123
> 2016 AMD
> DIFFUSED IN USA
> MADE IN CHINA
> 
> Currently used SBIOS is a branch from "EmbeddedPI-FP5 1.2.0.3RC3".
> 
> In the future our SBIOS might merge with EmbeddedPI-FP5_1.2.0.5RC3.
> 

I think it's more likely an sbios issue, so hopefully the new release fixes it.

Alex

> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>
> Sent: Mittwoch, 25. November 2020 17:08
> To: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS] <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>; 
> Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix 
> <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, 
> Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as 
> broken
> 
> [AMD Public Use]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
> <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 5:04 AM
> > To: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; Huang, Ray 
> > <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> > Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, 
> > Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as 
> > broken
> >
> > I do have also other problems with this unit, when IOMMU is enabled 
> > and pci=noats is not set as kernel parameter.
> >
> > [ 2004.265906] amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: [drm:amdgpu_ib_ring_tests 
> > [amdgpu]]
> > *ERROR* IB test failed on gfx (-110).
> > [ 2004.266024] [drm:amdgpu_device_delayed_init_work_handler
> [amdgpu]]
> > *ERROR* ib ring test failed (-110).
> >
> 
> Is this seen on all instances of this chip or only specific silicon?  
> I.e., could this be a bad chip?  Would it be possible to test a newer 
> sbios?  I think the attached patch should work if we can't get it 
> fixed on the platform side.  It should only enable the quirk on your particular platform.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
> > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. November 2020 10:16
> > To: 'Deucher, Alexander' <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; 'Huang, Ray'
> > <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; 'Kuehling, Felix' <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > Cc: 'Will Deacon' <will@kernel.org>; 'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'
> > <linux- kernel@vger.kernel.org>; 'linux-pci@vger.kernel.org' <linux- 
> > pci@vger.kernel.org>; 'iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org'
> > <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>; 'Bjorn Helgaas'
> > <bhelgaas@google.com>; 'Joerg Roedel' <jroedel@suse.de>; 'Zhu, 
> > Changfeng' <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as 
> > broken
> >
> > Remark:
> >
> > Systems with R1305G APU (which show the issue) have the following
> > VGA-
> > Controller:
> > 0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> > [AMD/ATI] Picasso (rev cf)
> >
> > Systems with V1404I APU (which do not show the issue) have the 
> > following
> > VGA-Controller:
> > 0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> > [AMD/ATI] Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile 
> > Series] (rev 83)
> >
> > "rev cf" vs. "ref 83" is probably what you where referring to with 
> > PCI Revision ID.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
> > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. November 2020 07:05
> > To: 'Deucher, Alexander' <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; Huang, Ray 
> > <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> > Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, 
> > Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as 
> > broken
> >
> > I see that problem only on systems that use a R1305G APU
> >
> > sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_firmware_info
> >
> > shows
> >
> > VCE feature version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 UVD feature
> > version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 MC feature version: 0, 
> > firmware
> version:
> > 0x00000000 ME feature version: 50, firmware version: 0x000000a3 PFP 
> > feature version: 50, firmware version: 0x000000bb CE feature version:
> > 50, firmware version: 0x0000004f RLC feature version: 1, firmware version:
> > 0x00000049 RLC SRLC feature version: 1, firmware version: 0x00000001 
> > RLC SRLG feature version: 1, firmware version: 0x00000001 RLC SRLS 
> > feature
> > version: 1, firmware version: 0x00000001 MEC feature version: 50, 
> > firmware
> > version: 0x000001b5
> > MEC2 feature version: 50, firmware version: 0x000001b5 SOS feature
> version:
> > 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 ASD feature version: 0, firmware version:
> > 0x21000030 TA XGMI feature version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 
> > TA RAS feature version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 SMC feature
> > version: 0, firmware version: 0x00002527
> > SDMA0 feature version: 41, firmware version: 0x000000a9 VCN feature
> > version: 0, firmware version: 0x0110901c DMCU feature version: 0, 
> > firmware
> > version: 0x00000001 VBIOS version: 113-RAVEN2-117
> >
> > We are also using V1404I APU on the same boards and I haven´t seen 
> > the issue on those boards
> >
> > These boards give me slightly different info: sudo cat 
> > /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_firmware_info
> >
> > VCE feature version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 UVD feature
> > version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 MC feature version: 0, 
> > firmware
> version:
> > 0x00000000 ME feature version: 47, firmware version: 0x000000a2 PFP 
> > feature version: 47, firmware version: 0x000000b9 CE feature version:
> > 47, firmware version: 0x0000004e RLC feature version: 1, firmware version:
> > 0x00000213 RLC SRLC feature version: 1, firmware version: 0x00000001 
> > RLC SRLG feature version: 1, firmware version: 0x00000001 RLC SRLS 
> > feature
> > version: 1, firmware version: 0x00000001 MEC feature version: 47, 
> > firmware
> > version: 0x000001ab
> > MEC2 feature version: 47, firmware version: 0x000001ab SOS feature
> version:
> > 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 ASD feature version: 0, firmware version:
> > 0x21000013 TA XGMI feature version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 
> > TA RAS feature version: 0, firmware version: 0x00000000 SMC feature
> > version: 0, firmware version: 0x00001e5b
> > SDMA0 feature version: 41, firmware version: 0x000000a9 VCN feature
> > version: 0, firmware version: 0x0110901c DMCU feature version: 0, 
> > firmware
> > version: 0x00000000 VBIOS version: 113-RAVEN-116
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Root Complex
> > 00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2
> IOMMU
> > 00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h 
> > (Models
> > 00h-1fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
> > 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > PCIe GPP Bridge [6:0]
> > 00:01.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Zeppelin 
> > Switch Upstream (PCIE SW.US)
> > 00:01.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > PCIe GPP Bridge [6:0]
> > 00:01.5 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Zeppelin 
> > Switch Upstream (PCIE SW.US)
> > 00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h 
> > (Models
> > 00h-1fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge
> > 00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus A
> > 00:08.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B
> > 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus 
> > Controller (rev 61)
> > 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC 
> > Bridge (rev
> > 51)
> > 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 0
> > 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 1
> > 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 2
> > 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 3
> > 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 4
> > 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 5
> > 00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 6
> > 00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven/Raven2 
> > Device 24: Function 7
> > 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0e)
> > 01:00.1 Serial controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 
> > 816a (rev 0e)
> > 01:00.2 Serial controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 
> > 816b (rev 0e)
> > 01:00.3 IPMI Interface: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 816c 
> > (rev 0e)
> > 01:00.4 USB controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 816d 
> > (rev 0e)
> > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network 
> > Connection (rev 03)
> > 03:00.0 PCI bridge: Pericom Semiconductor PI7C9X2G608GP PCIe2
> > 6-Port/8- Lane Packet Switch
> > 04:01.0 PCI bridge: Pericom Semiconductor PI7C9X2G608GP PCIe2
> > 6-Port/8- Lane Packet Switch
> > 04:02.0 PCI bridge: Pericom Semiconductor PI7C9X2G608GP PCIe2
> > 6-Port/8- Lane Packet Switch
> > 04:03.0 PCI bridge: Pericom Semiconductor PI7C9X2G608GP PCIe2
> > 6-Port/8- Lane Packet Switch
> > 04:04.0 PCI bridge: Pericom Semiconductor PI7C9X2G608GP PCIe2
> > 6-Port/8- Lane Packet Switch
> > 04:05.0 PCI bridge: Pericom Semiconductor PI7C9X2G608GP PCIe2
> > 6-Port/8- Lane Packet Switch
> > 06:00.0 Serial controller: Asix Electronics Corporation Device 9100
> > 06:00.1 Serial controller: Asix Electronics Corporation Device 9100
> > 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network 
> > Connection (rev 03)
> > 0a:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I210 Gigabit Network 
> > Connection (rev 03)
> > 0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> > [AMD/ATI] Picasso (rev cf)
> > 0b:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
> > Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio Controller
> > 0b:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 
> > Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) Platform Security Processor
> > 0b:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Raven2 
> > USB
> > 3.1
> > 0b:00.5 Multimedia controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 
> > Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor
> > 0b:00.7 Non-VGA unclassified device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
> > [AMD] Raven/Raven2/Renoir Non-Sensor Fusion Hub KMDF driver
> > 0c:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA 
> > Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 61)
> >
> > PCI Revision ID is 06 I believe. Got that from this lspci -xx
> >
> > 00:01.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Zeppelin 
> > Switch Upstream (PCIE SW.US)
> > 00: 22 10 5d 14 07 04 10 00 00 00 04 06 10 00 81 00
> > 10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 02 00 f1 01 00 00
> > 20: e0 fc e0 fc f1 ff 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > 30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff 00 12 00
> > 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > 50: 01 58 03 c8 00 00 00 00 10 a0 42 01 22 80 00 00
> > 60: 1f 29 00 00 13 38 73 03 42 00 11 30 00 00 04 00
> > 70: 00 00 40 01 18 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 bf 01 70 00
> > 80: 06 00 00 00 0e 00 00 00 03 00 01 00 00 00 00 00
> > 90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > a0: 05 c0 81 00 00 00 e0 fe 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > c0: 0d c8 00 00 22 10 34 12 08 00 03 a8 00 00 00 00
> > d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > e0: 00 00 00 00 4c 8a 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> > f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>
> > Sent: Dienstag, 24. November 2020 16:06
> > To: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
> <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>;
> > Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix 
> > <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org;
> > linux- pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> > Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; Zhu, 
> > Changfeng <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as 
> > broken
> >
> > [AMD Public Use]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
> > <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 2:29 AM
> > > To: Huang, Ray <Ray.Huang@amd.com>; Kuehling, Felix 
> > > <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; Deucher, Alexander 
> > > <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux- 
> > > pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> > > Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>; 
> > > Zhu,
> > Changfeng
> > > <Changfeng.Zhu@amd.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS 
> > > as broken
> > >
> > > Module Version : PiccasoCpu 10
> > > AGESA Version   : PiccasoPI 100A
> > >
> > > I did not try to enter the system in any other way (like via ssh) 
> > > than via Desktop.
> >
> > You can get this information from the amdgpu driver.  E.g., sudo cat 
> > /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/amdgpu_firmware_info .  Also what is the PCI 
> > revision id of your chip (from lspci)?  Also are you just seeing 
> > this on specific versions of the sbios?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. November 2020 07:43
> > > To: Kuehling, Felix <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>; Deucher, Alexander 
> > > <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux- 
> > > pci@vger.kernel.org; iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Bjorn 
> > > Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS] 
> > > <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>;
> > Changfeng
> > > Zhu <changfeng.zhu@amd.com>
> > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as
> > broken
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 06:51:11AM +0800, Kuehling, Felix wrote:
> > > > On 2020-11-23 5:33 p.m., Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 09:04:14PM +0000, Deucher, Alexander
> wrote:
> > > > >> [AMD Public Use]
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > > > >>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 8:44 AM
> > > > >>> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > > >>> Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org; 
> > > > >>> iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org; Will Deacon 
> > > > >>> <will@kernel.org>; Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>; 
> > > > >>> Deucher, Alexander <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>; Edgar
> Merger
> > > > >>> <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>; Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
> > > > >>> Subject: [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as broken
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Edgar Merger reports that the AMD Raven GPU does not work 
> > > > >>> reliably on his system when the IOMMU is enabled:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>    | [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx 
> > > > >>> timeout, signaled seq=1, emitted seq=3
> > > > >>>    | [...]
> > > > >>>    | amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: GPU reset begin!
> > > > >>>    | AMD-Vi: Completion-Wait loop timed out
> > > > >>>    | iommu ivhd0: AMD-Vi: Event logged [IOTLB_INV_TIMEOUT
> > > > >>> device=0b:00.0 address=0x38edc0970]
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This is indicative of a hardware/platform configuration 
> > > > >>> issue so, since disabling ATS has been shown to resolve the 
> > > > >>> problem, add a quirk to match this particular device while 
> > > > >>> Edgar follows-up with AMD
> > > for more information.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
> > > > >>> Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
> > > > >>> Reported-by: Edgar Merger <Edgar.Merger@emerson.com>
> > > > >>> Suggested-by: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
> > > > >>> Link:
> > > > >>>
> > >
> >
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> > > 9f6Q%3D&amp;reserved=0 .
> > > > >>> kernel.org/linux-
> > > > >>>
> > > iommu/MWHPR10MB1310F042A30661D4158520B589FC0@MWHPR10M
> > > > >>> B1310.namprd10.prod.outlook.com
> > > > >>>
> > >
> >
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> > > > >>>
> > >
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> > > > >>> LOUfX5oGaoLN8n%2B8%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > >>> Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > > > >>> ---
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi all,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Since Joerg is away at the moment, I'm posting this to try 
> > > > >>> to make some progress with the thread in the Link: tag.
> > > > >> + Felix
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What system is this?  Can you provide more details?  Does a 
> > > > >> sbios update fix this?  Disabling ATS for all Ravens will 
> > > > >> break GPU compute for a lot of people.  I'd prefer to just 
> > > > >> black list this particular system (e.g., just SSIDs or revision) if possible.
> > > >
> > > > +Ray
> > > >
> > > > There are already many systems where the IOMMU is disabled in 
> > > > the BIOS, or the CRAT table reporting the APU compute 
> > > > capabilities is broken. Ray has been working on a fallback to 
> > > > make APUs behave like dGPUs on such systems. That should also 
> > > > cover this case where ATS is blacklisted. That said, it affects 
> > > > the programming model, because we don't support the unified and 
> > > > coherent memory model on dGPUs like we do on APUs with IOMMUv2.
> > > > So it would be good to
> make
> > > > the conditions for this workaround as narrow as possible.
> > >
> > > Yes, besides the comments from Alex and Felix, may we get your 
> > > firmware version (SMC firmware which is from SBIOS) and device id?
> > >
> > > > >>>    | [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx 
> > > > >>> timeout, signaled seq=1, emitted seq=3
> > >
> > > It looks only gfx ib test passed, and fails to lanuch desktop, am I right?
> > >
> > > We would like to see whether it is Raven, Raven kicker (new 
> > > Raven), or Picasso. In our side, per the internal test result, we 
> > > didn't see the similiar issue on Raven kicker and Picasso platform.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ray
> > >
> > > >
> > > > These are the relevant changes in KFD and Thunk for reference:
> > > >
> > > > ### KFD ###
> > > >
> > > > commit 914913ab04dfbcd0226ecb6bc99d276832ea2908
> > > > Author: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > > Date:   Tue Aug 18 14:54:23 2020 +0800
> > > >
> > > >      drm/amdkfd: implement the dGPU fallback path for apu (v6)
> > > >
> > > >      We still have a few iommu issues which need to address, so 
> > > > force raven
> > > >      as "dgpu" path for the moment.
> > > >
> > > >      This is to add the fallback path to bypass IOMMU if IOMMU
> > > > v2 is disabled
> > > >      or ACPI CRAT table not correct.
> > > >
> > > >      v2: Use ignore_crat parameter to decide whether it will go 
> > > > with IOMMUv2.
> > > >      v3: Align with existed thunk, don't change the way of 
> > > > raven, only renoir
> > > >          will use "dgpu" path by default.
> > > >      v4: don't update global ignore_crat in the driver, and 
> > > > revise fallback
> > > >          function if CRAT is broken.
> > > >      v5: refine acpi crat good but no iommu support case, and 
> > > > rename the
> > > >          title.
> > > >      v6: fix the issue of dGPU initialized firstly, just modify 
> > > > the report
> > > >          value in the node_show().
> > > >
> > > >      Signed-off-by: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > >      Reviewed-by: Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
> > > >      Signed-off-by: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
> > > >
> > > > ### Thunk ###
> > > >
> > > > commit e32482fa4b9ca398c8bdc303920abfd672592764
> > > > Author: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > > Date:   Tue Aug 18 18:54:05 2020 +0800
> > > >
> > > >      libhsakmt: remove is_dgpu flag in the hsa_gfxip_table
> > > >
> > > >      Whether use dgpu path will check the props which exposed 
> > > > from
> > kernel.
> > > >      We won't need hard code in the ASIC table.
> > > >
> > > >      Signed-off-by: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > >      Change-Id: I0c018a26b219914a41197ff36dbec7a75945d452
> > > >
> > > > commit 7c60f6d912034aa67ed27b47a29221422423f5cc
> > > > Author: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > > Date:   Thu Jul 30 10:22:23 2020 +0800
> > > >
> > > >      libhsakmt: implement the method that using flag which 
> > > > exposed by kfd to configure is_dgpu
> > > >
> > > >      KFD already implemented the fallback path for APU. Thunk 
> > > > will use flag
> > > >      which exposed by kfd to configure is_dgpu instead of 
> > > > hardcode
> > before.
> > > >
> > > >      Signed-off-by: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
> > > >      Change-Id: I445f6cf668f9484dd06cd9ae1bb3cfe7428ec7eb
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >    Felix
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Alex. I'll have to defer to Edgar for the details, as 
> > > > > my understanding from the original thread over at:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > >
> > > > > is that this is a board developed by his company.
> > > > >
> > > > > Edgar -- please can you answer Alex's questions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Will

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[    0.000000] PCIe: ATS is disabled
[    0.538229] pci 0000:0b:00.0: disabling ATS

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From 4e9e80150dc4d736b833137d558e126f44115905 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:57:15 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] PCI: quirks: Add an ATS quirk for a Picasso APU

This is very specific to a particular platform, because
ATS is required for GPU compute and this is not known
to be an issue on any other Picasso platforms.

Signed-off-by: Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
---
 drivers/pci/quirks.c | 13 +++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/pci/quirks.c b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
index f70692ac79c5..d6e3845d5d04 100644
--- a/drivers/pci/quirks.c
+++ b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
@@ -5164,6 +5164,17 @@ static void quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats(struct pci_dev *pdev)
 	    (pdev->device == 0x7340 && pdev->revision != 0xc5))
 		return;
 
+	if (pdev->device == 0x15d8) {
+		if (pdev->revision == 0xcf &&
+		    pdev->subsystem_vendor == 0xea50 &&
+		    (pdev->subsystem_device == 0xce19 ))
+			goto no_ats;
+		else
+			return;
+	}
+
+no_ats:
 	pci_info(pdev, "disabling ATS\n");
 	pdev->ats_cap = 0;
 }
@@ -5176,6 +5187,8 @@ DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x6900, quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
 DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x7312, quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
 /* AMD Navi14 dGPU */
 DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x7340, quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
+/* AMD Raven platform iGPU */
+DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ATI, 0x15d8, quirk_amd_harvest_no_ats);
 #endif /* CONFIG_PCI_ATS */
 
 /* Freescale PCIe doesn't support MSI in RC mode */
-- 
2.25.4


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-08  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-23 13:44 [PATCH] PCI: Mark AMD Raven iGPU ATS as broken Will Deacon
2020-11-23 21:04 ` Deucher, Alexander
2020-11-23 22:33   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-23 22:51     ` Felix Kuehling
2020-11-24  6:43       ` Huang Rui
2020-11-24  7:28         ` [EXTERNAL] " Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-11-24 15:05           ` Deucher, Alexander
2020-11-25  6:05             ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-11-25  9:16               ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-11-25 10:03                 ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-11-25 16:07                   ` Deucher, Alexander
2020-11-26  9:24                     ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-11-30 18:36                       ` Deucher, Alexander
2020-12-07  4:53                         ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-12-08  8:23                           ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS] [this message]
2020-12-09  7:59                             ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-12-09 14:23                               ` Deucher, Alexander
2020-12-10 10:48                                 ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]
2020-12-10 15:36                                   ` Deucher, Alexander
2020-12-10 16:25                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-11-24  5:32     ` Merger, Edgar [AUTOSOL/MAS/AUGS]

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