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From: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Stanimir Varbanov <svarbanov@mm-sol.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	PCI <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] pcie-qcom: provide a way to power up qca6390 chip on RB5 platform
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 15:50:53 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YBnJPWWQyRV4HtLa@builder.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqJoKEVUs0f7rP87M3Wh6yVvB-bYi7vBprti8hoim3-e-A@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 02 Feb 15:37 CST 2021, Rob Herring wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 1:48 PM Bjorn Andersson
> <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat 30 Jan 10:14 CST 2021, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 06:53, Bjorn Andersson
> > > <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri 29 Jan 16:19 CST 2021, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 00:50, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 06:45:21AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > > > > > On 28/01/2021 22:26, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 11:52 AM Dmitry Baryshkov
> > > > > > > > <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Some Qualcomm platforms require to power up an external device before
> > > > > > > > > probing the PCI bus. E.g. on RB5 platform the QCA6390 WiFi/BT chip needs
> > > > > > > > > to be powered up before PCIe0 bus is probed. Add a quirk to the
> > > > > > > > > respective PCIe root bridge to attach to the power domain if one is
> > > > > > > > > required, so that the QCA chip is started before scanning the PCIe bus.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is solving a generic problem in a specific driver. It needs to be
> > > > > > > > solved for any PCI host and any device.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ack. I see your point here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As this would require porting code from powerpc/spark of-pci code and
> > > > > > > changing pcie port driver to apply power supply before bus probing happens,
> > > > > > > I'd also ask for the comments from PCI maintainers. Will that solution be
> > > > > > > acceptable to you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't say without seeing the code.  I don't know enough about this
> > > > > > scenario to envision how it might look.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess the QCA6390 is a PCIe device?  Why does it need to be powered
> > > > > > up before probing?  Shouldn't we get a link-up interrupt when it is
> > > > > > powered up so we could probe it then?
> > > > >
> > > > > Not quite. QCA6390 is a multifunction device, with PCIe and serial
> > > > > parts. It has internal power regulators which once enabled will
> > > > > powerup the PCIe, serial and radio parts. There is no need to manage
> > > > > regulators. Once enabled they will automatically handle device
> > > > > suspend/resume, etc.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > So what you're saying is that if either the PCI controller or bluetooth
> > > > driver probes these regulators will be turned on, indefinitely?
> > > >
> > > > If so, why do we need a driver to turn them on, rather than just mark
> > > > them as always-on?
> > > >
> > > > What's the timing requirement wrt regulators vs WL_EN/BT_EN?
> > >
> > > According to the documentation I have, they must be enabled right
> > > after enabling powering the chip and they must stay enabled all the
> > > time.
> > >
> >
> > So presumably just marking these things always-on and flipping the GPIO
> > statically won't be good enough due to the lack of control over the
> > timing.
> >
> > This really do look like a simplified case of what we see with the
> > PCIe attached modems, where similar requirements are provided, but also
> > the ability to perform a device specific reset sequence in case the
> > hardware has locked up. I'm slightly worried about the ability of
> > extending your power-domain model to handle the restart operation
> > though.
> 
> I think this is an abuse of 'power-domains'. Just define the
> regulators in both WiFi and BT nodes and have each driver enable them.
> They're refcounted. If that's still not enough control over the power
> sequencing, then create a 3rd entity to do it, but that doesn't need
> to leak into DT. You already have all the information you need.
> 

As Dmitry explained he still need to pull the two GPIOs high after
enabling the regulators, but before scanning the PCI or serdev buses.

I was thinking something along the lines you suggest, but I've not been
able to come up with something that will guarantee the ordering of the
events.

Regards,
Bjorn

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-02 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-28 17:52 [PATCH v2 0/5] Add support for Qualcomm QCA639x chips family Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] misc: qca639x: add support for QCA639x powerup sequence Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] arm64: qcom: dts: qrb5165-rb5: add qca6391 power device Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-30  3:47   ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-01-30  3:59     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-01-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] pcie-qcom: provide a way to power up qca6390 chip on RB5 platform Dmitry Baryshkov
     [not found]   ` <CAL_JsqLRn40h0K-Fze5m1LS2+raLp94LariMkUh7XtekTBT5+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-29  3:45     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-29 21:50       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29 22:19         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-29 22:39           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-30  3:53           ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-01-30 16:14             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-02-02 19:48               ` Bjorn Andersson
2021-02-02 21:37                 ` Rob Herring
2021-02-02 21:50                   ` Bjorn Andersson [this message]
2021-02-03  4:14                   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-29 23:39       ` Rob Herring
2021-06-13 18:40   ` Konrad Dybcio
2021-01-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] arm64: dtb: qcom: qrb5165-rb5: add bridge@0,0 to power up qca6391 chip Dmitry Baryshkov
     [not found]   ` <CAL_Jsq+uim_0fDsCqSjgbz-xzUEu4GAf+KOgxSd1KdrFWjhd3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-29  3:48     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-01-28 17:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] arm64: dts: qcom: Add Bluetooth support on RB5 Dmitry Baryshkov
     [not found]   ` <CAL_Jsq+nNRv3KceHthgktHR1oRMs+eKWC4O7n0k78izs1aTPfA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-29  3:49     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2021-02-02  6:16     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2021-01-30  8:04 [PATCH v2 3/5] pcie-qcom: provide a way to power up qca6390 chip on RB5 platform Yassine Oudjana
2021-01-30 16:12 ` Dmitry Baryshkov

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